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Shaun @ Tru6 10-25-2023 05:11 AM

Oven heating element in water
 
I need to boil about 50 gallons of water in a custom made tub and was thinking 1 or 2 oven heating elements would be good. Elements in the water, e- connections end mounted in a jig that would hang over the edge, safely out of the water.

Would that work?

is there a better way?

1990C4S 10-25-2023 05:29 AM

Hmmm....almost sounds like an application for a heating element from a water heater....

masraum 10-25-2023 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 12117355)
Hmmm....almost sounds like an application for a heating element from a water heater....


That's crazy talk, using an element from a 50 gal water heater would never work. The element would be sleepy under powered and it's not remotely designed for use in water.


:D

Shaun @ Tru6 10-25-2023 05:46 AM

My water heater thermostat is set for 125. Are water heater elements designed to go to 250ºF at a minimum? Oven would have a lot more surface area to get to boiling faster though that's not a big issue, that said, it won't be an insulated container so maximum heating is important.

1990C4S 10-25-2023 05:47 AM

Make your life easy. Use the advantages (lots) of a water heater element and avoid the pitfalls (multiple and high risk) of the oven element.

https://www.amazon.com/EWH-02-Electric-Heater-Tune-Up-Universal/dp/B08FHZT85Q/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2IEK3XCN2B8GJ&keywords=water+heate r+element&qid=1698241583&sprefix=water+heater+%2Ca ps%2C108&sr=8-6

Or do it your way and become famous on YouTube.

herr_oberst 10-25-2023 05:49 AM

Why are you using electricity? Why not use fire?

911 Rod 10-25-2023 05:50 AM

I would think you would need lots of heat and covered to make 50 gallons of water to boil.

stevej37 10-25-2023 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12117369)
My water heater thermostat is set for 125. Are water heater elements designed to go to 250ºF at a minimum? Oven would have a lot more surface area to get to boiling faster though that's not a big issue, that said, it won't be an insulated container so maximum heating is important.



170 degrees is the highest I've seen for a water heater element.

DerkPerk 10-25-2023 05:54 AM

Oven heating element in water
 
There is no way an oven element is designed to be used under water. I would use water heater elements. As long as you keep power to them, they will continue to heat. Now if they’re rated for that is another story. These are going to be a 208/230v element. Use at your own risk


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rockfan4 10-25-2023 05:59 AM

You're building a still, aren't you?
Lots of information on those sites.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads/55-gallon-electric-brew-kettle.203011/

The consensus in this thread is 3 5500 w elements. Still a long time to heat that much "water"

1990C4S 10-25-2023 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12117377)
170 degrees is the highest I've seen for a water heater element.

Element? Or thermostat? He won't need a thermostat, his heating element will be on continuously.

1990C4S 10-25-2023 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12117369)
My water heater thermostat is set for 125. Are water heater elements designed to go to 250ºF at a minimum? Oven would have a lot more surface area to get to boiling faster though that's not a big issue, that said, it won't be an insulated container so maximum heating is important.

Watts, not surface area, is what you need to look at.

id10t 10-25-2023 06:12 AM

Can you do it outside or in a VERY well vented area?

propane tank crab boiler burner thing would certainly do it

herr_oberst 10-25-2023 06:16 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_stove

Shaun @ Tru6 10-25-2023 06:26 AM

very quick google search, water heating elements don't get very hot so a stove element would be best I think. Steve, have to do inside though I could use my Cerakote paint room that is vented of course. But, I have to make the bath out of plywood lined with EPDM so no fire.

Shaun @ Tru6 10-25-2023 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12117409)

I have a 200,000 BTU wok burner. That would do something. But no fire.

Dixie 10-25-2023 06:40 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1698244800.jpg

1990C4S 10-25-2023 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12117420)
very quick google search, water heating elements don't get very hot so a stove element would be best I think.

So a 3,500 Watt element gets to about 200F, and that's it? That's completely illogical.

I wish you luck in your adventure.

Shaun @ Tru6 10-25-2023 06:52 AM

I'll google more but if I had to guess, it's either a safety regulation thing or a lifetime thing, or both.

Home beer brewers boil so will look in that direction.

From a beer forum: " The mythbusters boiled water in a hot water heater and it was really bad for the life of the element."

Shaun @ Tru6 10-25-2023 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt. Carrera (Post 12117431)

Thanks but my bath will be 7 feet long and 6 inches wide foot wide by 1 feet deep.


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