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Baz 11-14-2023 05:52 PM

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red 928 11-14-2023 11:51 PM

Something to consider:

Many homeowner's insurance companies will not cover
claims involving dog bites from breeds like pit bulls,
german shepherds, dobies, etc.
Farmers is one example.

If you have a dog that falls into one of those categories,
even if only a partial mix,
you might want to call your agent and verify.

All it takes is a little nip at a stranger and the POS is filing a
law suit against you claiming permanent disability or such.
You could lose everything.

1990C4S 11-15-2023 05:25 AM

The person your dog bites is automatically a POS if they sue you?

rfuerst911sc 11-15-2023 05:28 AM

In my opinion there is a big difference between " a little nip at a stranger " vs a person losing a limb or their life .

1990C4S 11-15-2023 05:39 AM

Who pays the medical bills? Who pays for any missed time at work?

If a stranger's dog bites me and breaks the skin, I'm seeing a doctor.

Norm K 11-15-2023 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 12131788)
In my opinion there is a big difference between " a little nip at a stranger " vs a person losing a limb or their life .

And therein lies a huge difference between pits and other breeds. The damage they inflict upon, and after the first bite.

Insurance companies are fairly competent in the area of actuarial science, and can therefore be considered an authority on the danger of pit bulls ... in the event that one finds a multitude of real-world anecdotal evidence insufficient.

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Baz 11-15-2023 06:35 AM

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Baz 11-16-2023 04:48 AM

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masraum 11-16-2023 04:53 AM

LOL, this has turned into "Dog thread 2.0"

911 Rod 11-16-2023 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 12131788)
In my opinion there is a big difference between " a little nip at a stranger " vs a person losing a limb or their life .

I don't want any dog giving me "a little nip"!

herr_oberst 11-16-2023 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12132449)
I don't want any dog giving me "a little nip"!

I wonder if it's ok for someone's 10-year-old kid to give a stranger a friendly little punch in the sack?

Baz 11-16-2023 05:31 AM

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1990C4S 11-16-2023 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12132449)
I don't want any dog giving me "a little nip"!

My neighbors are a-holes. They leave their yappy dog outside all day, it just sits on their deck and barks. Last night it escaped, ran across the road, and bit a kid who had his back turned.

If that dog runs towards me, it's getting a free ride into the trees. Then to the creek for a quick burial.

Animal control will be dropping by tomorrow, I hope they take the dog away.

Baz 11-16-2023 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 12132851)
My neighbors are a-holes. They leave their yappy dog outside all day, it just sits on their deck and barks. Last night it escaped, ran across the road, and bit a kid who had his back turned.

If that dog runs towards me, it's getting a free ride into the trees. Then to the creek for a quick burial.

Animal control will be dropping by tomorrow, I hope they take the dog away.

Not the fault of the dog.

The humans should be hauled away.......

VINMAN 11-16-2023 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by baz (Post 12132942)
not the fault of the dog.

The humans should be hauled away.......

100% !!

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Baz 11-19-2023 12:32 PM

Gus and Hazel… and Godzilla.....:p

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red 928 11-19-2023 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 12131785)
The person your dog bites is automatically a POS if they sue you?

Yes.

porsche tech 11-20-2023 03:49 AM

My dog bite story:

About 5 years ago I was playing golf on my club course and someone hit a ball just off the left side of the cart path. I was helping to look for it and I could hear a dog yapping in the house. Then I hear the sliding door and a guy shouting “this is private property!” I think, ok that’s weird and start to walk away but as I’m walking, out of the corner of my eye I see the little black yapper (not a pit bull) running up behind me. He jumped up and bit me on the back of my hand. I’m thinking “what the…” turn around and the guy is standing on his deck in an undershirt with the dog in his arms. I said, “hey, that dog bit me” to which he replies, “he doesn’t bite”. I said he bit me, I’m bleeding. He says “ I apologize, I didn’t mean for him to get out”, as he is turning to go back inside. At a loss for words, I said “does he have all his shots, the guy said yes and went inside. After golf I’m thinking the guy is a weirdo and not sure I believe him about the shots so I called neighborhood security (who have all the power of the sheriff) and told them I didn’t want to make a big deal out of it but could somebody go check to see if the dog actually has its shots? A while later the security guy is coming up my driveway (my dog was barking at him!) and reports that the dog has all his shots. Again, I said I don’t want to make a big deal out of it and the guy says oh it’s a big deal, “I have to report it to the South Carolina department of something something” and took a picture of the bite. An hour later the SC dept of something calls to say they will go to the guy’s house to quarantine the dog for 2 weeks and call me back in 2 weeks. So it turned into a bigger deal than need be. If the owner had said, “oh, I’m sorry let me get you a band aid” and showed me his shot tag, I would have gone on my way without a problem. As someone stated earlier, maybe the human owner should have been quarantined for two weeks.

GH85Carrera 11-20-2023 06:29 AM

Back in my single days a doberman pinscher adopted me. She just showed up on my porch and she was very friendly. She was a total lover and not mean at all, unless you were a cat or squirrel.

When my doorbell would ring, she was right there, and I could hook my finger inside her collar and she would stand on her rear legs wanting to greet whoever. Most people took a step back when they saw her.

She loved tennis balls, and the neighborhood boys would go up the nearby tennis courts and look in the bushes and find "lost" balls and bring them to her. Many times I had 5 or 6 boys in the back yard tossing a tennis ball around and her chasing after it, and loving every moment. She would have a favorite tennis ball for a week or so, and then one day it was time for it to die. She could destroy it in short order, and go get another from the box of them I had as her toy box.

I had zero worries she would bite anyone. I could easily take her food at any point, never an issue. She was really smart. I still miss her.

David Inc. 11-20-2023 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 12132942)
Not the fault of the dog.

The humans should be hauled away.......

Yep. When I lived near Atlanta there was an ex-cop from NYC who had three big rottweilers, and the air that he had them to appear tough. He didn't do a great job of keeping them in and one of them went after my golden retriever once. My little guy was a pushover and ran so I had to get in this dog's face and get big to make him stand down. My parents talked to the owner who made motions that he'd keep the dog inside.

One of those dogs mauled a neighborhood kid a few years after I moved. Happened in the yard of a neighbor who ran out and saved the kid--thankfully most of the damage was limited to the kid's backpack. Dog had to be put down, but not sure what happened to the owner.

Long story short, **** that guy and any other owner who buys a dog to look tough.

porsche tech 11-20-2023 07:17 AM

We have friends in VA who had a real fancy home and they would do home swap vacations all over the world. We would dog sit Marcus, their pit bull, whenever they went. Big old striped dog about twice as big around in the front as he was in the back…looked like he should be smoking a cigar. Nicest, friendliest, gentlest dog you could ever want. Never once heard him bark at anybody or anything. Nonetheless, when I would walk him, people would move to the other side of the street when they saw us coming. Once a Beagle came charging out of somebody’s yard right at him barking. Stuck his nose in Marcus’ butt as dogs want to do and Marcus just calmly kept on walking. I know pit bulls can be dangerous but Marcus was a wonderful one.

yellowperil 11-20-2023 11:19 AM

Any of those dogs named Milan Lucic?? What an idiot he's become.

red 928 11-20-2023 11:48 AM

When I was a kid, my uncle had a chevy vega that
didn't leak oil or overheat and our neighbor had a
ford pinto that didn't blow up or catch fire.

Guess the bad reps were undeserved ;)

javadog 11-20-2023 11:52 AM

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MBAtarga 11-20-2023 06:35 PM

As a teenager, a buddy's family got a new dog - a Samoyed - fairly young. First time I was "introduced" to it in their house it jumped up and nipped a finger on my right hand. Buddy's dad was right there and just made some general comment that it wasn't a real bite, etc. Skin on my finger was broken and bleeding - but just very slightly.

A few weeks go by and I visit again. No dog in sight. I asked about it- and buddy said they had to git rid of it. Seems his Aunt dropped by a week or so ago and went to hug his Mom. Dog jumped up and bit her arm. :)

Por_sha911 11-20-2023 06:47 PM

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Wow.
With logic like that, if I shoot a friend of yours for no reason and they call the police then they must be... ?

Baz 11-20-2023 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red 928 (Post 12135162)
When I was a kid, my uncle had a chevy vega that
didn't leak oil or overheat and our neighbor had a
ford pinto that didn't blow up or catch fire.

Guess the bad reps were undeserved ;)


My first Vega...a wagon. Chicks dig wagons.......:)

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porsche tech 11-21-2023 03:00 AM

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My first new car I bought…’73 Pinto with manual trans and A/C. Put 125K on it with little to no problem. I sold it to a friend who put anther ton of miles on it. A Camaro rear ended him at a stop light and one of the doors wouldn’t close good. Then some guy saw it in his fenced lot at his shop and bought it. Maybe it’s still on the road!

David Inc. 11-21-2023 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 12135374)
As a teenager, a buddy's family got a new dog - a Samoyed - fairly young. First time I was "introduced" to it in their house it jumped up and nipped a finger on my right hand. Buddy's dad was right there and just made some general comment that it wasn't a real bite, etc. Skin on my finger was broken and bleeding - but just very slightly.

A few weeks go by and I visit again. No dog in sight. I asked about it- and buddy said they had to git rid of it. Seems his Aunt dropped by a week or so ago and went to hug his Mom. Dog jumped up and bit her arm. :)

Yep, I grew up with Samoyeds, and they can be pretty "wild" at times. I recall reading way back when that they do require good behavior training.

1990C4S 11-21-2023 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 12135379)
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Wow.
With logic like that, if I shoot a friend of yours for no reason and they call the police then they must be... ?

Logic? Nope, none. :rolleyes:

jhynesrockmtn 11-21-2023 05:31 AM

https://www.krem.com/article/news/crime/owner-dog-mauled-child-death-halloween-accused-violating-court-order/293-b2e61a82-ff36-4c26-815b-439c51d068bb

A local 4 year old was killed on halloween by a dog that was at his Grandma's. Sounds like the whole family is a bit of a *&(^ show. Grandma's boyfriend, the dogs owner, arrested after. He was violating a no contact order related to being around minors. He is awaiting trial for child porn. Young Mom dropped the kid off a lot. Looks like Grandma and her child porn possessing boyfriend were both drunk when the kid was killed.

David Inc. 11-21-2023 05:33 AM

Man that poor kid.

masraum 11-21-2023 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 12131785)
The person your dog bites is automatically a POS if they sue you?

That probably depends upon the bite and the dog owners response. If a dog nips at someone, but doesn't break the skin, and the dog owner is super apologetic and willing to try to appease the nippee... If the nippee put themselves in a bad situation... If the dog is a habitual offender and the owner has been told to control their dog many times...

There are situations where the nippee is the POS, and there are situations where dog owner is the POS (whether anyone is sued or not), but if it gets litigious, then that just adds a layer of possible crappiness.

1990C4S 11-21-2023 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12136145)
That probably depends upon the bite and the dog owners response. If a dog nips at someone, but doesn't break the skin, and the dog owner is super apologetic and willing to try to appease the nippee... If the nippee put themselves in a bad situation... If the dog is a habitual offender and the owner has been told to control their dog many times...

There are situations where the nippee is the POS, and there are situations where dog owner is the POS (whether anyone is sued or not), but if it gets litigious, then that just adds a layer of possible crappiness.

It's simple. If a dog bites me and I incur costs, I expect the owner to reimburse me. Medical, lost pay, etc.

Hurt feelings and suffering? No. But the owner is responsible for out-of-pocket costs.

masraum 11-21-2023 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 12136193)
It's simple. If a dog bites me and I incur costs, I expect the owner to reimburse me. Medical, lost pay, etc.

Hurt feelings and suffering? No. But the owner is responsible for out-of-pocket costs.

That's assuming that the person that was bit (not necessarily specifically you) was reasonable. I think we all know that there could be instances where someone could have their dog on a leash where someone could approach the dog, possibly with the dog owner saying, "please stay away from my dog" while the person says, "oh dogs love me!" while quickly reaching down at the top of the dogs head. And I think we also all know that there could be people that would sue without ever having incurred any costs.

There are clueless morons on both sides of the coin. Granted, in most cases, it's likely to be the dog owner's issues, but it is possible for the other person to be at fault.

Baz 11-22-2023 12:31 PM

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red 928 11-22-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 12135379)
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Wow.
With logic like that, if I shoot a friend of yours for no reason and they call the police then they must be... ?


Reporting a crime is the same as filing a law suit?
On what planet?
That doesn't so very logical to me.
it sounds like just the opposite.
That's as nice as I can put it.

Reporting an attempted murder is logical and reasonable.
Filing a claim against a homeowner's insurance policy for costs incurred is logical and reasonable.

Stick with me here, this is where it gets confusing to some:

FILING A LAWSUIT makes you a POS.
We're not talking small claims here to get reimbursed for costs.

We're talking personal injury LAWSUITS where the lawyer says:
we'll just say we want a million dollars and see what happens.
Where a POS starts taking about time away from work,
expecting punitive damages,
pain and suffering, etc.

You can recognize the type everywhere,
even in this thread.

And well all know that encompasses almost all
lawsuits for personal injury.
Hense getting lumped into the POS category.


I've been in court four times in my life.
All four were for frivolous and baseless lawsuits
filed against me or a company I represented,
and all four were dismissed without judgement.
And yes, all four of the people who filed those lawsuits
(and their ambulance chasers) were undeniably walking Pieces OS.

Baz 11-22-2023 12:53 PM

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creaturecat 11-22-2023 01:51 PM

dog bit me while on my mtn bike ride - couple of weeks ago.
tore one sock. an expensive one. didn’t break my skin, thankfully.
owner was 100% unapologetic
older lady. border collie type dog.
she scurried, i let it go.

stevej37 11-22-2023 01:58 PM

My next door neighbor's daughter brought her 1 year old pit bull over to visit...no leash.

He spotted me, in my yard, from at least 100 feet away and took off barking and latched onto my ankle. I was wearing a pair of muck/bog boots because of snow on the ground. The dog couldn't pierce the boot...but wouldn't let go.

I really wish I had been carrying a lead pipe....would have been done quickly.


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