My brother is in the market for an SUV

[Tobra]

He asks me what I think of Range Rovers.

This is a guy who occasionally will slam on the brakes backing up scaring my wife into something, or over a piece of wood, oh no the cat. I blame her for falling for it still at this point.

I steer him away from that, thinking Honda or Toyota. I already told him he does not really want to buy new rigyt now, but he has a 20 year old car and is probably going new, with budget being a secondary consideration

[pwd72s]

Give him one of those Range Rover bumper stickers. "The parts falling from this car are of the finest British quality."

[p911dad]

A new 2023 4Runner might be a good fit right now. Figure $45 - 50ish.

[Seahawk]

Highlander.

[Ayles]

Originally Posted by p911dad

A new 2023 4Runner might be a good fit right now. Figure $45 - 50ish.

Have a 2023 TRD OR Premium. Great car, unstoppable in the snow. A little thirsty gas wise but I love it. Just a hair over 50k, will be worth $30k long after the range rover is a door stopper.

[LWJ]

4Runner. Neighbor/buddy has one that is over 5 years old. Looks and drives as new.

[look 171]

Yep, 4 runner. I have 120,000 on it. No rattles, no squeaks, track straight, and comfortable enough to drive across the country. Now, for sure it isn't as comfy as a Rover but it will bring them back. if 4WD isn't needed, like Paul suggested, Highlander or even the Rav4 (a bit small for my needs).

[sc_rufctr]

If he was my brother I'd steer him towards a Toyota (I drove a work owned Toyota SUV for nearly a decade).
- Boring but they're great at doing what an SUV should do.

Less boring would be a Mazda SUV but I don't have any direct ownership experience to fully recommend them.
- Honda lost me years ago.

[Tobra]

I figure he wants posh, he can go Lexus.

He had a 4Runner, I don't know what he was thinking about with the Range Rover stuff.

Wow, new Lexus is an unfortunate looking vehicle.

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I figure he wants posh, he can go Lexus.

He had a 4Runner, I don't know what he was thinking about with the Range Rover stuff.

Wow, new Lexus is an unfortunate looking vehicle.

Mazda? They get props from me because they haven't jumped on the EV bandwagon... yet.

[Nickshu]

Volvo XC60 or XC90

[recycled sixtie]

I am very happy with our RX350. Prices of Lexus are high for new and used. The hybrid is worth a look as gas mileage is better. Having said that the grill is ugly. A Lexus salesman told my wife we can replace the grill.

[recycled sixtie]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

Mazda? They get props from me because they haven't jumped on the EV bandwagon... yet.

In this part of the world there is the Mazda MX30 which is an SUV electrical vehicle. The only problem is the range of 160kms/100 miles which is not enough.

[Dantilla]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

Mazda?

Had a Mazda CX-7. Turbo 4-banger.
When it hit 200,000 miles, replaced it with a Jeep Grand Cherokee.
Both my wife and I miss the Mazda. Drove like a sports car.
The Grand Cherokee does everything very well from a practically standpoint, but it drives like it looks. Just a glorified station wagon.
The CX-7 was a hoot to drive.

[Seahawk]

We have had a few Toyota's, including a Highlander, SR-5, Tacoma, and OWP's 2003 4Runner: Moon and back any number of times with one tow, my daughter's FJ with nearly 300k on it...not in the picture. Houston, we don't have a problem.



I like the Highlander for what it is, not what it isn't.

If your brother is running the pavement 98.25% of the time, a Highlander is what I would get. That said, my wife said 4Runner and so, in a moment of clarity...

BTW, I bought the LC to keep miles off the Tundra. I have no desire to replace it ever.

[Tobra]

He is not likely to go off road, extremely unlikely.

I guess he may go up the hill to Tahoe, so snow capability is nice.

My son runs a Toyota dealership. Son in law just asked them what color Tacoma 4x4, 4 door trucks they had when he needed to replace his. My brother started talking about Range Rovers.

Current daily is Lexus SUV hybrid. School bus sized thing that gets 30 mpg. My wife loves it. Not so happy with the tiny little roller skate sized vehicles I tend to like.

[Alan A]

I had a new RAV-4 for a month. V6. VVT.
Horrible car. Took me a month to get rid of it.
Terrible gas mileage.

The clincher for me was my merge onto the highway from the train station at night.
The VVT doesn’t work until the engine gets warm, so it wouldn’t get over 50 on the on-ramp onto a road everyone was doing 70. That car was going to kill me and it had to go. It was already warm on the test drive, so there was no way to tell from that alone.

My in-laws loved theirs. I loathed mine.

My point - drive it how you’d use it before you buy it.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Tobra

Wow, new Lexus is an unfortunate looking vehicle.

Hideous.

https://www.lexusofconcord.com/blog/what-is-the-interior-of-the-2023-lexus-lx-600-suv-like/

Neighbor bought a 2008 Lexus GX470 used from Lexus in about 2016. It was rusty underneath and it was not a good car. They seriously screwed him over. I'm his mechanic. I barked at him for not asking me anything or letting me look at it before buying. Something happened to that car that was out of the ordinary causing that rust.

Calls me three months ago about buying a nice used vehicle. We went through all the European options and I finally said Ed, you have two options, a 4Runner or a Highlander. Bought a three or four year old Highlander.

I've called him twice asking him if he's keeping up with all the problems and we both have a chuckle. Had he bought a three or four year old Highlander in 2016 another car would not even have entered his mind currently.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Nickshu

Volvo XC60 or XC90

Do those have fuel pump control modules that shiet the bed?

My general impression (based on S60's in Ohio):

[Tobra]

Good lord Bob, lucky she is not a redhead