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Tobra 05-09-2023 10:49 AM
Paramedic so traumatized by seeing someone who had been shot, that she can no longer work.


Wow, guess she better stay the heck out of Chicago.

craigster59 05-09-2023 11:16 AM
What a shyteshow. $1.15 million from a non-union propmaster? Good luck, hope she's a "trust fund baby" who only works in film as a side hobby.

Hugh R 05-09-2023 02:49 PM
I was involved in a few fatalities on set while at Disney. Where is my mental trauma money?

Tobra 05-09-2023 05:03 PM
You just need to find a friendly head shrinker willing to fake up some records from when you were working

sc_rufctr 05-09-2023 05:09 PM
The only comment I want to make...

At the end of the day Mr Baldwin has to be able to live with what he's done.

- and after everything that's happened I wish him luck with that. He's going to need it.

Tobra 05-09-2023 07:53 PM
will not bother him one bit

sc_rufctr 05-09-2023 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 11995433)
will not bother him one bit
Probably but my prediction... Rust will attract a large audience because of the shooting. After that "Mr Baldballs" will be looking for work as a Golf Caddy. Maybe he can carry The Don's clubs? :p

Rawknees'Turbo 05-09-2023 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11995434)
Probably but my prediction... Rust will attract a large audience because of the shooting. After that "Mr Baldballs" will be looking for work as a Golf Caddy. Maybe he can carry The Don's clubs? :p
He'll have to fight you tooth and nail for that job, Aussie Orange! :D

sc_rufctr 05-09-2023 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 11995467)
He'll have to fight you tooth and nail for that job, Aussie Orange! :D
True... :p

302340 06-14-2023 05:30 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12192957/Weapons-expert-Alec-Baldwin-case-hungover-Rust-set-prosecutors-claim.html

"The weapons supervisor on the film set where Alec Baldwin shot and killed a cinematographer was drinking and smoking marijuana in the evenings during the making of Rust, prosecutors have alleged, saying she was likely to have been hungover when she loaded a live bullet into the revolver that the actor used. ..."


Lee

Jeff Higgins 06-14-2023 08:44 AM
From the linked article:

Jason Bowles, Gutierrez-Reed's lawyer, said on Tuesday that the prosecution has mishandled the case.

'The case is so weak that they now have chosen to resort to character assassination claims about Hannah,' he told the Associated Press.

Over the course of my career, I saw (and heard all about) a number of rather serious industrial accidents. Even some fatalities. I even testified in a few cases arising from these accidents. In not a single case that I am aware of were the actions of the involved parties on the night before the accident investigated.

I have to agree with Bowles. This is an act of desperation on the part of the prosecutor, indicating he has a very weak case. Let's keep a couple of things in mind:

) Gutierrez-Reed was away at lunch when this incident occurred.

) The gun went through two other sets of hands - the assistant director's and Baldwin's - before the shot was fired. Neither checked the gun. She was twice removed from possession of this firearm.

flatbutt 06-14-2023 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 12022910)
From the linked article:

Jason Bowles, Gutierrez-Reed's lawyer, said on Tuesday that the prosecution has mishandled the case.

'The case is so weak that they now have chosen to resort to character assassination claims about Hannah,' he told the Associated Press.

Over the course of my career, I saw (and heard all about) a number of rather serious industrial accidents. Even some fatalities. I even testified in a few cases arising from these accidents. In not a single case that I am aware of were the actions of the involved parties on the night before the accident investigated.

I have to agree with Bowles. This is an act of desperation on the part of the prosecutor, indicating he has a very weak case. Let's keep a couple of things in mind:

) Gutierrez-Reed was away at lunch when this incident occurred.

) The gun went through two other sets of hands - the assistant director's and Baldwin's - before the shot was fired. Neither checked the gun. She was twice removed from possession of this firearm.
Yup. Plus in the absence of any medical data to support this claim it is nothing but liable.

Reiver 06-14-2023 08:58 AM
Weapons being handled and the union weapons expert was not on hand?

Jeff Higgins 06-14-2023 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Reiver (Post 12022932)
Weapons being handled and the union weapons expert was not on hand?
That is correct. She was away at lunch.

The assistant director did not receive this firearm directly from the weapons expert. He picked it up off of a cart. She was nowhere around when he did that. God only knows how long it had sat there unattended.

The fact that it was not locked up while she was gone is inexcusable. The fact that someone chose to handle it, after it had sat there unattended for an indeterminate amount of time, without personally watching the weapons expert inspect it first serves to compounds the problem.

Reiver 06-14-2023 09:25 AM
There seems to be a great deal of 'at fault' to go around in that scenario.... and that def. includes the trigger puller.

john70t 06-14-2023 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 12022944)
That is correct. She was away at lunch.

The assistant director did not receive this firearm directly from the weapons expert. He picked it up off of a cart. She was nowhere around when he did that. God only knows how long it had sat there unattended.
1). Aren't there federal licensing laws that require the company to handle firearms in accordance with the law?
(ie most Hollywood guns are real weapons modified)
There is a chain-of-custody which is supposed to be followed but was broken by multiple persons.
The owner of the film company was also the committer of the fatal act.
Both involve criminal negligence.

2). How is that different from a parent leaving a loaded gun on the table at a teenage party?
Both roles are liable for what happened.
Again, criminal negligence.

Reiver 06-14-2023 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 11994918)
Paramedic so traumatized by seeing someone who had been shot, that she can no longer work.


Wow, guess she better stay the heck out of Chicago.
Not much of a paramedic..... sounds more like a lawyers suggestion for a big payout.

craigster59 06-14-2023 05:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 12022944)
That is correct. She was away at lunch.

The assistant director did not receive this firearm directly from the weapons expert. He picked it up off of a cart. She was nowhere around when he did that. God only knows how long it had sat there unattended.

The fact that it was not locked up while she was gone is inexcusable. The fact that someone chose to handle it, after it had sat there unattended for an indeterminate amount of time, without personally watching the weapons expert inspect it first serves to compounds the problem.
You are absolutely right Jeff. Weapons are always locked away either on the prop trailer or in a "vault" on set when not in use.

If there is to be weapons handling while the crew is at lunch the assistant director will have the armorer break early for lunch or let them know that the director wants a rehearsal before the company comes back to film and have the armorer take a short lunch. There was absolutely no reason to leave a "hero" gun laying around.

sc_rufctr 09-23-2023 12:22 PM
6 days old.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/510280-alec-baldwin-loses-bid-to-halt-lawsuit-in-rust-shooting-case

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berettafan 09-25-2023 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 302340 (Post 11994848)
https://apnews.com/article/alec-baldwin-rust-movie-medic-lawsuit-03e7ae14c908c7a4a6342d85c8d0db4e

"SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — A New Mexico judge has approved a $1.15 million settlement between a medic who worked on the “Rust” film set and one of several defendants she accused of negligence in the fatal 2021 shooting of a cinematographer by Alec Baldwin during a rehearsal.

Court records show the partial settlement between Cherlyn Schaefer and prop master Sarah Zachry was approved during a hearing Monday. Schaefer told the judge there’s not a day that goes by when she doesn’t think about what happened, the Santa Fe New Mexican reported.

In her civil complaint, Schaefer said she fought desperately in a failed attempt to save the life of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins. She said the shock, trauma and emotional distress that followed has made it impossible for her to continue working in her field. ..."


Lee

What a useless twat. She brings shame to her household and profession.


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