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| Information Overloader Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NW Lower Michigan 
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				Fixer-upper in Tuscany
			 
			Serious fixer-upper. Has electric, water from well, BARELY habitable, 50 miles from Florence in a village with two restaurants, one bar.  Open windows i,e., no glass nor screens, 1.5 overgrown acres, road (walking path) with no mass transit for 1/2 mile or 1kg or whatever, 700 years old.  $100k. Deal or no deal? | ||
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			Can get double the craftsmanship at half the cost
		 
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| Ayo Irpin, Ukraine! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Santa Cruz, CA 
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| Information Overloader Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NW Lower Michigan 
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Double?  Artistry, if you got the cash, which I won’t. Stricktly summer place. Like camping under terra cotta roof and stone walls. A ‘ruin’ if you will. Plumbing, electric and that’s it. Small garden space. Walk to bus stop 1/4-1/2 mile away. Stupendous mountainous view.
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Ha!  My inspiration (back when I could get it up just looking at a mollusk). Last edited by Crowbob; 03-08-2024 at 05:49 PM.. | ||
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			I’m talking two beds, one bath, on separate floors with outside stone stairs to first floor from the ground floor kitchen, bath and pantry or whatever.  Tiny fridge. No internets.
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			Second house or full time? Retirement visa has a threshold of income. Just something to consider.
		 
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			I think there are more fish in the ocean.
		 
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			Italy has (had?) a program where for $1 (or maybe euro) you can purchase a property in a distressed area - not near any heavy tourism spots. You've got to guarantee refurbishment and residence - I think for 2 years or so. The spot you mention sounds like one of those properties - but not for $100k.
		 
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			I hear they are giving it away as most of their young men a nd women have left to large cities to make a better living leaving the elders to fend for themselves.  Some Africans have settle down in those smaller villages and made it their home and are thriving or keeping afloat.  I am not sure about a small village, since They are only fun or exciting for about a week or two.   You guys watch too many Under the Tuscan Sun. Diane is a dear client of mine and have known her for over 25 years. She's a real sweet heart. Careful there, bud   | ||
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			We get it on TV here all the time.  Usually the English go over there and buy one. OFTEN it turns into a nightmare.  Very vague rules regarding deeds and ownership.  Unless you have Italian mob connections I'd stay clear of it.
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			Throw in Gina Lollabrigida and you got a deal.
		 
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			Have you checked it & the area out on Google Earth?
		 
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I don't think you'd want that.  As for Tuscany, I wouldn't mind living there, but I would have to do a few extended stays first.
		 
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			Visited Italy once.  Fell in love with it.  Beautiful views, wholesome and cheap food, yummy and cheap wine, awesome manual transmission diesel cars, a motorbike culture in the cities, etc etc etc.   Immediately started looking into how reasonable it might be to own a home there. Could I rent it out for a decade or so and then retire to it a few months each year? Met an Italian American who ran a business in Italy for several years. After about an hour of talking with him I am more or less cured of that dream. Still want to spend extended time there in retirement but not as a property owner. Italy, as he described it, is a mess in many ways. Long story short it is not America with a different view and language. 
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			Is this serious?  I have a contact who is a high level realtor in Umbria. You need to check out the area first. Also, there a many groups covering questions surrounding this sort of venture on FB.  Side note: I am SUPER interested in something like this. | ||
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			I saw someone on TV recently who had purchased a $1 fixer-upper, and then both on either side for $2 more (residences and biz purposes) ... after sinking a couple hundred grand (mebbe 250), she was very happy. No free lunches tho.... not even $3 lunches. | ||
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| I see you Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NJ 
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			Pix of the house? Pix of Diane just as good. 
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