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Baz 04-02-2024 07:45 PM

Temu vs. Amazon
 
While grocery shopping at Winn Dixie this afternoon I noticed another guy's shoes I thought were cool and asked where he got them. He volunteered "****!".....and when I replied "Never heard of ****.", he offered "It's just like Amazon....but less expensive!"

So I just now took a look and found the shoes.

$9.97 and free shipping - just takes a little longer to get here (free delivery April 9-16) it says.

Breathable Slip-on Sock Shoes For Men - Lightweight And Shock Absorbing Sneakers For Outdoor Activities


https://img.kwcdn.com/product/1e19d4...70/format/webp

Anyone here using ****?

Arizona_928 04-02-2024 08:18 PM

Shop like a billionaire... I have some bones to pick on consumerism and the exploits used by ****. That said. I've used them to buy a snap ring plier set, socks, electric motors, ect. All of it was cheap Chinese junk... I received a refund on everything minus the snap ring pliers and didn't have to mail the junk back... Harbor Frieght is higher quality and they don't steal everything on my mobile when i download the app either...

That said, if you buy a bunch of junk on Amazon. **** has it for less because it's all the same Chinese junk.

WPOZZZ 04-02-2024 08:40 PM

I swear some of their products are the same ones on Amazon for a higher price. I tend to buy crap like rechargeable led flashlights and they are good. Got a security cam for $5 that I can access with my phone and can rotate the camera up/down/right/left from my phone. You can use an SD card to record, or get their cloud acct. The tools are ok, but the fit and finish is not the best.

What gets really irritating is all the emails and texts you get from ****. Amazon sends one or two a day. **** sends 8-10.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-03-2024 04:03 AM

I do my best to not buy anything made in China. For some things, impossible, like an iPhone though Apple is slowly moving production to India and other more politically favorable countries, so that's good. Other things when I have an option, I'm happy to pay a little more to buy something not made in China.

**** is a Chinese owned company so I wouldn't use it based on that alone.

wdfifteen 04-03-2024 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12225395)
I do my best to not buy anything made in China. For some things, impossible, like an iPhone though Apple is slowly moving production to India and other more politically favorable countries, so that's good. Other things when I have an option, I'm happy to pay a little more to buy something not made in China.

**** is a Chinese owned company so I wouldn't use it based on that alone.

+1000. I try to stick with Made in USA products out of patriotism. "Support your local worker!"

Sooner or later 04-03-2024 04:20 AM

Buy local

Rusty Heap 04-03-2024 07:36 AM

**** had 2-3 Superbowl Ads.

How many MILLIONS did they spend on that?

They're the real deal.

The Phone App will send spam 20 times a day seems like. Just use their website on a PC

Rusty Heap 04-03-2024 07:38 AM

Other said sites include

Ali-Express and Banggood.com

Noah930 04-03-2024 08:24 AM

One interesting thing my son and I noted about ****: it's not always just knock-off stuff (like we would have expected). Our example: I've been a lifelong Lego fan. And I'm of the age where I watched the Transformers cartoon when I grew up. So of course I was a fan of the Optimus Prime Lego set when it was released. But I'm not paying $180 for a toy for myself.

You can go on AliExpress and buy a knock-off Optimus Prime (or any other "Lego" set) for about 1/3 the price of the Lego one. It's essentially the same set, though sometimes the quality control of the plastic parts isn't as good as Lego's; however, on paper they're the same.

So for Christmas, my son bought me the **** version of Optimus Prime. While the toy looks the same (albeit on a smaller scale), is a totally different build. The basic truck-into-robot concept is similar, and the size of the bricks is interchangeable with Legos, but how the bricks come together for the build is totally different. Maybe my son and I just geeked out over it, but we noted how **** went to a lot of trouble to make a Lego-type toy without copying Lego (which would have been the easy way to have done it for ****).

Zeke 04-03-2024 08:56 AM

I have been an Aliexpress customer before the pandemic. Some things never arrived but refunds were issued. I've had not problems. ****, OTOH, seems to not have as any selections and prices are not that favorable. I have not bought in ****.

However, an example is multi bin parts trays. Last I looked **** had some for around 2 bucks. Amazon is more like 20 bucks.

I just looked again and I missed the boat. **** is way more expensive than a month ago. Amazon the same.

Funnier is that this thread has already popped up on a google search.

Dixie 04-03-2024 10:58 AM

**** and Shein are oodles cheaper than Amazon, and returns are just as easy. You just have to be okay with waiting two weeks to get your stuff, and most likely supporting slave labor. Sizing can also be a challenge. It's common for an XL blouse to have a tiny 28" bust measurement.

Noah930 04-03-2024 11:02 AM

I hate it when I buy a blouse, and it doesn't fit my bust.

HobieMarty 04-03-2024 12:50 PM

Nope, nope, and nope!!!! If I don't buy local, I find what I need on ebay and sometimes Amazon, but I rarely use the 'Zon.

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WPOZZZ 04-03-2024 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt. Carrera (Post 12225704)
**** and Shein are oodles cheaper than Amazon, and returns are just as easy. You just have to be okay with waiting two weeks to get your stuff, and most likely supporting slave labor. Sizing can also be a challenge. It's common for an XL blouse to have a tiny 28" bust measurement.

I'm ok waiting 2 weeks for the stuff to arrive. OTOH, lots of times Amazon takes 2 weeks to even ship!

jyl 04-03-2024 08:06 PM

I bought some shoes from ****. They were such crap, I was so disgusted at myself for falling for it, I didn’t even try to get my $19.99 back, just kept the shoes as a reminder to not buy the cheapest possible ***** from China.

Seriously, they need to close the loophole of no duty, no inspection on individual packages from China. If it’s not throw-away borderline ripoff junk, it’s fentanyl.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-04-2024 03:01 AM

There are warnings not to buy solar eclipse glasses on **** and Amazon.

WSH 04-04-2024 03:40 AM

No fan of Bezos, but I'll support an American company over a CCP loss-leader trying to steal market share by dumping chinese crap on us. F the CCP

Racerbvd 04-04-2024 03:51 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1712207235.jpg

KRLocke 04-04-2024 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSH (Post 12226062)
No fan of Bezos, but I'll support an American company over a CCP loss-leader trying to steal market share by dumping chinese crap on us. F the CCP

well said! The less $ we can send to Xi, the safer we will be. We are bankrolling his plans for Taiwan. And killing the middle class buying Chinese junk.

Arizona_928 04-04-2024 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSH (Post 12226062)
No fan of Bezos, but I'll support an American company over a CCP loss-leader trying to steal market share by dumping chinese crap on us. F the CCP

That's exactly what bezos is doing.... but as a middle man....

jyl 04-04-2024 07:41 AM

Amazon employs 1.5 million Americans, how many does **** employ?

Rusty Heap 04-04-2024 07:47 AM

Sister had SAME day delivery on an Amazon purchase. I've had 18 hour delivery before.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-04-2024 08:04 AM

Amazon is great for some things. I eat about 3 lbs of shelled pistachios a month. Cheap, CA grown, shelled and here next day. Amazing snack at 3-4 if you have a light lunch. Great weight loss plan.

Arizona_928 04-04-2024 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 12226246)
Amazon employs 1.5 million Americans, how many does **** employ?

Good for them. American sweatshops vs Chinese ones.

Amazon docks leave if one is in the bathroom too long/standing around.

jyl 04-04-2024 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 12226319)
Good for them. American sweatshops vs Chinese ones.

Amazon docks leave if one is in the bathroom too long/standing around.

Roughly 30% of Amazon's headcount is office types (technical, finance, marketing, admin, etc) and 70% is logistics (warehouse, transport, delivery, etc).

The warehouse jobs only pay about $16-17/hr and the work is perhaps not what you and I would like to do, but they are jobs, for Americans, and lots of them.

Noah930 04-04-2024 09:47 AM

I treat a lot of Amazon warehouse employees. Few of them seem to be interested in returning back to work. Noticeably worse than compared to most other employers. My biased take on it is that it must be a pretty crappy job.

Zeke 04-04-2024 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 12226357)
Roughly 30% of Amazon's headcount is office types (technical, finance, marketing, admin, etc) and 70% is logistics (warehouse, transport, delivery, etc).

The warehouse jobs only pay about $16-17/hr and the work is perhaps not what you and I would like to do, but they are jobs, for Americans, and lots of them.

So, working at Mickey D's in CA pays more. You gotta wonder about that.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-04-2024 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 12226477)
So, working at Mickey D's in CA pays more. You gotta wonder about that.

I think fast food minimum wage is the result of many years of organized lobbying and strikes and whatnot to achieve their goal.

Isn't Amazon also unionized? Or just certain distribution centers maybe? If the latter, you can be sure to see a greater effort of Amazon employees and unions to raise their minimum wage. Walmart can't be far behind. There's been a trope for over a decade, true or not I don't know, that many/most Walmart store employees have to rely on government assistance to make ends meet.

jyl 04-04-2024 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12226496)
I think fast food minimum wage is the result of many years of organized lobbying and strikes and whatnot to achieve their goal.

Isn't Amazon also unionized? Or just certain distribution centers maybe? If the latter, you can be sure to see a greater effort of Amazon employees and unions to raise their minimum wage. Walmart can't be far behind. There's been a trope for over a decade, true or not I don't know, that many/most Walmart store employees have to rely on government assistance to make ends meet.

Amazon wages vary by state, and the $16-17 is the starting - Amazon claims average wage of warehouse and fulfillment employees is $20.50 although that’s their claim, so apply salt. It is very aggressive in opposing unionization, as are all the big companies - Starbucks, Walmart, etc. So not a dream job, to state the obvious, but it’s a job that someone without skills can get and do.

Dixie 04-04-2024 02:09 PM

I had a friend that worked summers at an Amazon fulfillment center. Her job the rest of the year was teaching elementary school. She said Amazon was a very fast paced and demanding job. A lot of people would quit before completing a week.

So why'd she work there? Because it paid way better than teaching. Plus, it gave her something to do over the summer

Tobra 04-04-2024 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12225395)
I do my best to not buy anything made in China. For some things, impossible, like an iPhone though Apple is slowly moving production to India and other more politically favorable countries, so that's good. Other things when I have an option, I'm happy to pay a little more to buy something not made in China.

**** is a Chinese owned company so I wouldn't use it based on that alone.

This

I avoid trade with Amazon also. I would rather pay more and buy from a brick and mortar store, because I am old and like the idea of having a store where I can go buy things

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12226496)
I think fast food minimum wage is the result of many years of organized lobbying and strikes and whatnot to achieve their goal.

You are mistaken

911boost 04-05-2024 06:10 AM

Amazon beats the hell out of their vendors in some areas and it is starting to bite them in the rear end. They are trying to change and I have seen some positive progress. The wages also vary greatly by shift, time of the year etc. Distribution center work is hard physical work no matter who it is with.

Like has been mentioned, they are good for some things and I do like the Prime free shipping.

I get raw peanuts to boil from them, and its way easier than trying to find them local for example.

Will not use ****, its hard enough avoiding the chinesium in everyday life.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-08-2024 02:36 AM

Saw this today from WSJ. Can watch the whole thing but my concerns start at 6:10

<iframe width="1280" height="720" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5jG-1FfGx5c" title="How ****’s Explosive Growth Is Disrupting American E-Commerce | WSJ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>

JoeFleming86 03-10-2025 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12228445)
Saw this today from WSJ. Can watch the whole thing but my concerns start at 6:10

<iframe width="1280" height="720" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5jG-1FfGx5c" title="How ****’s Explosive Growth Is Disrupting American E-Commerce | WSJ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Shopping online has gotten more interesting with platforms like **** popping up as alternatives to Amazon. Some people swear by the deals, while others question the quality and shipping times. It’s always good to check real customer experiences before making a decision. A pissedconsumer survey can give you insights into what other buyers have gone through, helping you avoid surprises. Have you tried **** or Amazon for specific purchases? Which one gave you a better deal, and did the quality match your expectations?

wdfifteen 03-10-2025 08:04 AM

**** ****. I'm sticking with Sears.

911 Rod 03-10-2025 08:11 AM

Why does the said retailer show as **** on this thread?

masraum 03-10-2025 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12226057)
There are warnings not to buy solar eclipse glasses on **** and Amazon.

Yeah, Amazon has lots of imported junk. Last year, we bought eclipse glasses from Amazon, but I waded through 100 different vendors that looked Chinese in origin and purchased a well known brand (still probably made in China, but made to higher standards).
Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 12226064)

LOL!
Quote:

Originally Posted by WSH (Post 12226062)
No fan of Bezos, but I'll support an American company over a CCP loss-leader trying to steal market share by dumping chinese crap on us. F the CCP

yes. And I try to avoid the cheap ,imported, knock-off products as much as possible.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie (Post 12226535)
I had a friend that worked summers at an Amazon fulfillment center. Her job the rest of the year was teaching elementary school. She said Amazon was a very fast paced and demanding job. A lot of people would quit before completing a week.

So why'd she work there? Because it paid way better than teaching. Plus, it gave her something to do over the summer

Presumably, she wasn't super young? So we had a more mature (not late teens early 20s) person working in the warehouse repeatedly. It must not have been too gruelling, and the pay must have been decent.

There's a lot of stuff that I can't get local (in my little rural local area). Driving into Houston or Austin (60 miles to the edge of either city, 75-85 to the city centers) to buy from a brick and mortar means a bare minimum of 2.5hours, but probably more like 3+ hours of just driving.

I/we do a lot of shopping with Amazon (and do some other online shopping besides Amazon). It's hard to beat the service, selection, and shipping.

IMO, Amazon shoppers should pay attention to 3 things when buying from Amazon.
1 the Vendor that's actually selling what you're buying. Is the vendor Amazon, or the manufacturer or some other third party. If you want to avoid counterfeit products and cheap imported junk you should stick with stuff sold by Amazon and/or the manufacturer/vendor of the item (and if going with the manufacturer/vendor, you probably want to avoid names that are "odd" which are likely Chinese sellers).

If you want to avoid slow shipping and potential customer service issues and possibly bad products, then stick with stuff that's "shipped by Amazon" or "fulfilled by Amazon". I'm not saying that you can't have perfectly good products shipped quickly with good service that come from somewhere besides the Amazon warehouses. I just think you have to perform additional due diligence for those vendors. If it's shipped from the Amazon warehouse then returns are easy/painless. If it's sold and shipped by a third party, then you could either be hitting a small vendor (great!) or a vendor that is trying to make more money by listing through Amazon (hit or miss) or a fly by night vendor that may be selling junk, or may be hard to work with if there's an issue after purchase. It's up to you to protect yourself in those cases.

It's still possible to get burned by Amazon or to get great products and services sold and shipped from small third party sellers, but I think that following those suggestions help avoid those issues.

Steve Carlton 03-10-2025 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 12225336)
While grocery shopping at Winn Dixie this afternoon I noticed another guy's shoes I thought were cool and asked where he got them.
https://img.kwcdn.com/product/1e19d4...70/format/webp

That guy needs to do a better job shaving his legs.

john70t 03-10-2025 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12425780)
Why does the said retailer show as **** on this thread?

It doesn't compete with PP for the most part. Shop supplies and tools maybe. idk
Other company names are also filtered.
Pelican has a business to run.

Maybe the filter software company gets a kickback from Amazon.
Maybe AWS carries the network traffic and does it themselves.

masraum 03-10-2025 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12425780)
Why does the said retailer show as **** on this thread?

There was a time many years ago when Amazon was also ****** on PP.

I've never been on the other one, but I'm guessing that it's blocked due to there being a bunch of counterfeit/knock-off items that directly compete against PP.

As previously stated, Pelican Parts is primarily a parts sales business, not a social media company. I'm sure the boards are still around because they support the parts sales.


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