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Either way- no worries, EV sales are flatlining here. Good riddance. rjp |
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How are those affordable and sustainable currently? I don't know that I've ever seen a hydrogen refueling station. I'm sure they're around, but they can't be real common. And EVs are expensive even with the gov't. subsidies. May not be expensive for you, but most people can't pay cash for one and 5-7% car loans don't help the matter.
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like what? what the **** are you talking about? next we'll be debating the need for a hot water heater im sure. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: people dont even NEED cars, sincere question ... what are you talking about? |
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Do I count our total inability to build batteries, our age-old network of fossil fuel delivery, the reduced convenience and seasonal ineffectiveness of electric powered anything (Chicago cold weather LOL), and the simple fact they don’t sell without massive incentives (and even that is tanking now!)
Oh, I forgot “ugly” Anyhow, other than those items, you make total sense. Stay the course! Rjp |
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Leave that to the Europeans who have frankly a silly energy policy. (Winter 22 is what I’m referring to) Rjp |
Ps punk, look up uses for oil. Google it.
That’s why it’s needed. Rjp |
How are you going to manufacture an EV without using petroleum?
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We’re not. Nor are we going to manufacture anything else in our modern lives
Perhaps they are thinking of returning to bows, arrows and firewood for heat. Y’know, “progress” Europe is a textbook case of poor energy policy. We should NOT be following them, let alone give up our advantage of being an oil producer. |
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cause this isnt one. "we should make things out of stone, because its a more fundamental thing needed to process metal. metal bad! too complicated!" |
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It’s a perfectly valid point. What’s laughable is your inane argument that oil doesn’t matter to American standards of living, let alone to the civilized world I’m not going to bother what anyone else would realize-Study up on some uses for oil before you knee - jerk “nuh-uh”, for a change rjp |
"There is a **** ton of money being made keeping people angry and afraid."
The money is made by getting people's attention. Sometimes it seems that creating anger and fear is part or that, sometimes not (like pron). "Keeping..." well getting and keeping attention. The species as we know/knew it evolved over a long time in parallel with means of communication like verbal and written language. The pace of development of the latter has changed... all else being equal. Some aspects of "anger and fear" are controllable... others.. well perhaps not. And of course in the US the gubmint has at times encouraged some consumer and corporate behavior and discouraged other consumer and corporate behavior. Not all people agree with all of these activities and over time (even femtoseconds) folks change their minds. I think this likely to continue. |
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i dont know what point you think you have made, if want to try again, you could. but as it stands "people need oil" is not a point. poeple dont need oil. and also, who is talking about not having oil? like what the actual **** are you talking about? do you think because passenger cars are moving away from oil, we will not use oil for anything? what kind of nonsense are you arguing? |
"there is the whole technical infeasibility of it too.
full self driving is a silicon valley software engineers wet dream, not a reality anywhere else." I know some SV engineers... they likely have the same types of dreams as anyone else. Depends on what you mean by "full self driving." That term can be applied to a bus in a geofenced environment... Or a shuttle on a college campus... or... A geofenced environment like a senior living community campus.... https://www.thevillages.com/life/national-spotlight-shines-on-pilot-self-driving-taxi I consulted with a professor back in '18 or '19 about starting an AV technology company. Interesting stuff. https://unmanned.tamu.edu/projects/ |
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and i doubt even that. ultimately we will need to change road design, and then re work all the roads in order to actually achieve FSD. and then you start looking at stuff like snow and ice etc ... its a pipe dream. anyone who says otherwise, is a techbro |
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:cool: Rjp |
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