PWD 911S twin:

[speeder]

Well, almost. Not quite as nice but definitely a doppelgänger:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-porsche-911s-coupe-5/

[pwd72s]

Yeah, not quite...a mostly repainted '73, plastic interior, and a few things needing attention...but pretty close. Reserve not met at 155 or so. I purposely left a lot of money on the table when I passed mine off...no regrets.

(edit) Maybe this link will work in the remote chance anyone here will be interested.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-porsche-911s-coupe-5/

[speeder]

Like I said, not as nice. They definitely left the factory in identical spec, though, other than the leather in yours vs. leatherette in this one. Yours would do $250k easy on that site if it’s still in the condition you handed it off in…bidders go nuts for really exceptional 911s.

[pwd72s]

It would probably kill me to see my car being in an auction, being bragged about by the flippers and pimps of the collector car world. I was sick of being approached by these people. Evren was the perfect solution for me. Denis, I dunno what else to say...other than I'm not all about money. Another 200 grand wouldn't change my lifestyle one iota.

[speeder]

Cars like yours are traded between serious collectors, not flippers and pimps. You have some strange ideas in your head but you do you, buddy.

[pwd72s]

Bottom line...it was my car, right? I did what I wanted, right? Seriously, I have zero regrets. Couldn't care less about the "serious collector" set. It never was a group I wanted to join.

I'm not alone in feeling this way. A friend who's a bit older than me just gave his '58 Speedster to a nephew, after turning down a serious $175,000 offer. Once you reach a certain age, and you are pretty much satisfied with your life, "stuff" loses importance. It just becomes more krap you have to take care of. My daughter & her hubby aren't into cars, so I didn't really have the option my friend did. Like I said, Evren was the perfect solution for me.

(edit) Seriously, I doubt that anybody in this current board makeup gives a damn about this piece of ancient history.

[speeder]

Whoever offered your friend $175k for a ‘58 Speedster was trying to get it for less than half price. They are give-or-take $400k cars in 2024. I do pay attention to BaT but only as a viewing hobby, the cars I like are priced way out of my budget these days. Which I think sucks…they have gone from being owned by true enthusiasts at one time to rich douches, that I might agree with you on. I spend a lot more time looking at old American iron on that sight, the Porsche scene and market has gotten boring.

I just thought that you might be amused by a car that at least started out pretty close to yours, which was a very rare car.

[pwd72s]

Evidently, Irish Green/beige was an uncommon color combo, but more common east of the Mississippi. My car's original owner bought it in Chicago, drove it to Oregon. A young MD, his wife wanted a house, he wanted a down payment, I wanted a non bumpercar Porsche. This was back in 1974. $9,400 changed hands, and the car was mine. A good measure of 50 years of inflation...

One thing that helps the '72 over the '73 is that the '72 came stock with a front mounted oil cooler.
In '73, a cooler was optional. If memory serves, the optional cooler was a "trombone" cooler, just curved oil tubes..not a radiator cooler like in '72. Also, the forward oil tank of '72 was moved rearward in 1973 in order to install mandated side crash protection...that was probably a good move.

Hey, let the rich have their fun....doesn't bother me. But do be advised...today's early 911 prices can't be justified by the driving pleasure delivered.


The auction car was also East Coast delivery...back to the color thing.

[speeder]

You are so right about the fun/price ratio…it’s not that they aren’t fun, just nowhere near 6-figure fun. And $9400 was serious money for a car in 1974. My dad paid somewhere near that for a new Jag E-type V-12 roadster the same year.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

(edit) Seriously, I doubt that anybody in this current board makeup gives a damn about this piece of ancient history.

I do.

And I'm 100% with you on this. I've turned down some really stupid offers on my car over the years. When it's time, it simply goes to my younger son. He was the most instrumental in building it with me.

The guns, or at least most of them, will go to my oldest son. He picked up the hunting where the younger did not. It will be a pretty fair division of my "assets", such as they are. I would have nothing I would really want to do with the money I could get by selling it all off, I'm perfectly happy and comfortable right where I am.

It's not always all about money. Like you, not at my age anymore.

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

I do.

And I'm 100% with you on this. I've turned down some really stupid offers on my car over the years. When it's time, it simply goes to my younger son. He was the most instrumental in building it with me.

The guns, or at least most of them, will go to my oldest son. He picked up the hunting where the younger did not. It will be a pretty fair division of my "assets", such as they are. I would have nothing I would really want to do with the money I could get by selling it all off, I'm perfectly happy and comfortable right where I am.

It's not always all about money. Like you, not at my age anymore.

You are a lucky man to have children whose interests share yours. Our daughter just isn't into cars...neither is her hubby. Not that it's a bad thing, but it just is..living in South Dakota, she'll get my guns...good hunting there, evidently.

[Jeff Higgins]

Yes, Paul, I am truly blessed. I thank God every day for what He has provided for me. Far more important than money.

[Superman]

Originally Posted by speeder

... They are give-or-take $400k cars in 2024 .

Good speedsters are $650K.

I agree with Jeff. I am quite blessed with wealth and possessions, and stuff more important than that.

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by speeder

You are so right about the fun/price ratio…it’s not that they aren’t fun, just nowhere near 6-figure fun. .

...Volkswagen Type 2 split window just entered the chat.

[wildthing]

So... anyone in the "I'm not all about the money" camp willing to sell me either their 993 or Pre-74 911?

I'm still kicking myself for not buying the $45K 993 here a few years ago...

[pwd72s]

Hey, let the ones with the megabucks play their games. I was able to drive and enjoy them in the years before they became bragging rights baubles. Those were the fun days...

(edit) Sorry wildthing, I'm all out of Porsches with no desire to buy another.

[Paul T]

Originally Posted by Superman

Good speedsters are $650K.

I agree with Jeff. I am quite blessed with wealth and possessions, and stuff more important than that.

Good Lord, are they really? I’m not selling mine anytime soon, but not having any kids to pass it on to, I will likely go the PWD route and let it go at an extremely fair price to someone who will enjoy it and appreciate it….I actually hate that they have become so valuable, it takes the enjoyment out of ownership.

[wildthing]

I'm here for your Speedster, or your 72... or your 993 Paul.

[Steve Carlton]

How much for the Bullitt?

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

How much for the Bullitt?

LOL! The fact that it's not worth much is why I like it. No paranoia when driving it. I paid $30,075 for it new..licensed, out the door, in late April of '09. It now has 32,000 miles on the clock. What could I sell it for? Latest comparison I have is the recent auction of an '08 in good condition on BAT that sold for $22,500. Hardly collector car status, but the '08-'09 sn197 Bullitt Mustangs seem to be not suffering from depreciation as much as the GT models of the same years.

Driving impression? A car that does everything well but nothing in a spectacular manner.

A little loud, a little rough. Gives the impression of an old analog car. Good gauges, no TV screen. Very comfortable leather seating with same seats as the GT500 Mustang of the same year. Great steering feel. According to Car & Driver tests, quicker in a straight line than the '07 Cayman S. Boy did Stijn hate it when I posted those test results! Okay, but not great in the twisties. 80 seems to be it's freeway sweet spot at around 2500 rpm. It has a 6,500 redline.

No, I'll never love it like I loved the old '72 911S, but it's a decent driver. In all likelihood, it's my last "fun" car.