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Lies, all lies! "Dr No" Bond never has a Walther PPK!

This was more interesting than I really expected when they first started.


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Interesting nerd level about the guns. 99.9999% of the viewers never noticed the difference with the guns. Bond and every TV show and movie get the sound of a silenced gun way wrong. There is no silencer that just makes a patoop sound. It just is quiet enough to use with no hearing protection, but loud. I saw one move where they had a silencer on a revolver. Total BS.

Much like the early Star Trek, watching it in low def 1960s TVs the many of the bladed weapons Kirk had to fight with looked real. Watch the episodes now in full HD and it is clear they are just corrugated cardboard, painted silver.
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^^^ In the same vein, I’ve read that they make the sound of the guns louder than they really would be. Makes for better sound effects.

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^^^ In the same vein, I’ve read that they make the sound of the guns louder than they really would be. Makes for better sound effects.

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Actually, pretty much every movie I have ever watched vastly underplays just how loud most guns really are. Especially indoors.
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Actually, pretty much every movie I have ever watched vastly underplays just how loud most guns really are. Especially indoors.
Yea, I saw one shootout that was in a concrete storm drain. Many bullets fired, and then they have a nice conversation. They would have ringing and bleeding ears in reality.

Expecting reality in movies is just a pipe dream. Most automatics rattle like crazy when moved around, and every knife or sword makes a shwing sound when brandished.

And men have has a 10 minute fist fight and punch and kick each other in the mouth, and in the end, just a trickle of blood from the edge of the mouth. No fat lips or black eyes.
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How many times have I seen a car skidding in dirt and making a skidding-on-pavement squealing sound?

There's a cool Bond exhibit at the science museum in Chicago. Very much worth it. I don't remember any guns, but there must have been some. There were a few cars, including the Lotus submarine and a DB5. But the DB5 appeared to be stock.
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Actually, pretty much every movie I have ever watched vastly underplays just how loud most guns really are. Especially indoors.
Absolutely true!
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There is no silencer that just makes a patoop sound. It just is quiet enough to use with no hearing protection, but loud. I saw one move where they had a silencer on a revolver. Total BS.
(just to be 'that guy'. srry)
The problem with the revolver barrel-to-cylinder gap which allows burning gasses to escape in a ring and tends to blind revolver shooters at night.
Don't put your support hand too far forward or you'll poke an eye out kid.

There are a few revolvers which solved that problem:
https://silencerco.com/blog/Nagant-M1985
(terrible round but whatever)
Well, it requires some explanation, so read on if you’re so inclined. The tests I saw, however, were nothing short of spectacular from a suppression standpoint. They were movie quiet. The smacking of the hammer was louder than the gun’s discharge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTs-38_Stechkin_silent_revolver 7.62×41 mm SP-4
The SP-4 cartridges emit no report or flame because the propellant gases are retained in the case. The OTs-38 revolver is claimed to be effectively silent, as the sound level of the live and dry firing is practically identical

based off of..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_29
(Dirty Harry's Magnum, almost, but a short-barrel mini shotgun)
https://cartridgecollector.net/cartridge/44-quiet-special-purpose-revolver/
The noise of the QSPR round was about 110 dB, or similar to that of traditionally silenced .22LR pistol.
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Gotta love the spark when either a copper jacketed or even a plain lead bullet ricochets off of something, especially dirt.
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How many times have I seen a car skidding in dirt and making a skidding-on-pavement squealing sound?
I can comment on this from experience.
In the '80s, we were living along a gravel road which was being rebuilt. As work progressed, the trucks carrying the crushed gravel for the top layer packed the surface to a concrete like consistency.
Shortly after the work was completed, a car load of teenagers came along the road at somewhat above 'reasonable and prudent speed' to discover a group of my neighbors having a talk while standing on the edge of the road. The sudden application of brakes not only produced the screech of tortured rubber, but left a pair of black marks about 50 feet long on the packed gravel surface.
The kids got some pretty hard stares as they slowly drove by the gathering.

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Actually, pretty much every movie I have ever watched vastly underplays just how loud most guns really are. Especially indoors.
I like how in the movies/TV, when the actor moves side to side with a pistol there is some clicking type of sound. Pretty sure when I move a weapon side to side it is silent.

Sort of like the metallic sound when the actor swings a sword or knife but doesn't hit anything.

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