The New Scout is out...

[tdw28210]

and it is available as an SUV aka the "Traveler" or in pick-up form aka the "Terra". Both in either pure EV or EV with gas motor range extender (aka the "harvester" option). It will be made in Blythewood, SC just north of Columbia, SC. Thart's about 75 miles down I-77 S from Charlotte.

Both vehicles look pretty cool to me. Put myself on the waiting list for the Traveler with Harvester option. They are shooting for a 2027 delivery. It seems pretty well thought out. Kept a lot the rugged bits and the roof on the SUV is cloth and opens all the way back. Interior looks pretty sweet. Kept a lot of buttons. Not just flat screen touch controls.

The fact I can get 150 miles with the Harverster (gas) option takes most of the range anxiety away for me. If I need to travel more than 500 miles I will take my diesel Cayenne instead.

Finally, Scout is backed by VW so probably has a shot at surviving.

[tdw28210]

Oh yeah, you can can get a front bench seat too if you want it rather than two separate seats. LOL

[Alan A]

Backed by VW?

So it’s an ID4 in US clothing? That’ll sell well then

[tdw28210]

Speculation on what kind of gas motor will be used to recharge the battery. This one thinks it may be a turbo 3 cylinder VW motor. Seems plausible.

[kach22i]

Guess they really liked the Rivian.

Not a bad thing.

[berettafan]

Love the look of that sand colored truck. Sharp lines. No interest in an EV though.

[Dantilla]

I may have been interested if they made a two-door with removable hard top.
Kinda like a Scout.

[mtnrat]

I always liked scouts. Like the looks of this one. But EV? DOA.

[jyl]

Presumably the range extender will keep you going as long as you have fuel?

[red 928]

Seems like everything was mentioned except the price.

Edit:
never mind, I found it on my own. Around $60k list but
the first year will probably go way over that while the new penny is still shiny.

I would wait.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by kach22i

Guess they really liked the Rivian.

Not a bad thing.

The federal Insurance Institute of Highway Safety (IIHS) which has ultimate authority to mandate all the crash testing crumple zones and sensors and nanny features...all of which makes producing and buying any new car so expensive..does not not bumper-test.

It would be nice to know the average cost for a common accident before buying something.

(From another article: )
https://www.theautopian.com/heres-why-that-rivian-r1t-repair-cost-42000-after-just-a-minor-fender-bender/
IIHS does not currently run any sort of bumper testing, so there’s nothing in our crash test programs that would capture this issue. The Rivian R1Ts that we have crash tested are not repairable. I’m not aware of any current push to implement new bumper standards.

Then I pushed a bit more, to try and find why the IIHS was no longer doing those “bumper bash” tests like they used to, where they’d smash bumpers and record the costs of repair, like these tests, which you may remember:

IIHS responded, writing:

IIHS has limited resources to perform testing, so we shifted away from bumper testing to focus instead on new higher-speed crash test modes and evaluations of crash avoidance technology. While bumper testing can push automakers to make improvements from a damageability standpoint, it makes more sense for us to push changes that will also prevent injuries and save lives.

[jyl]

That is a good article.

Auto insurance premiums should reflect cost to repair x likelihood of accident.

Does it cost more to insure a Rivian for collision coverage, than other vehicles?

[berettafan]

Originally Posted by jyl

Presumably the range extender will keep you going as long as you have fuel?

I don't imagine this was meant as humorous but it's got me laughing pretty hard!

[tdw28210]

Originally Posted by jyl

Presumably the range extender will keep you going as long as you have fuel?

Theoretically, yes.

[tdw28210]

Originally Posted by john70t

The federal Insurance Institute of Highway Safety (IIHS) which has ultimate authority to mandate all the crash testing crumple zones and sensors and nanny features...all of which makes producing and buying any new car so expensive..does not not bumper-test.

It would be nice to know the average cost for a common accident before buying something.

(From another article: )
https://www.theautopian.com/heres-why-that-rivian-r1t-repair-cost-42000-after-just-a-minor-fender-bender/
IIHS does not currently run any sort of bumper testing, so there’s nothing in our crash test programs that would capture this issue. The Rivian R1Ts that we have crash tested are not repairable. I’m not aware of any current push to implement new bumper standards.

Then I pushed a bit more, to try and find why the IIHS was no longer doing those “bumper bash” tests like they used to, where they’d smash bumpers and record the costs of repair, like these tests, which you may remember:

IIHS responded, writing:

IIHS has limited resources to perform testing, so we shifted away from bumper testing to focus instead on new higher-speed crash test modes and evaluations of crash avoidance technology. While bumper testing can push automakers to make improvements from a damageability standpoint, it makes more sense for us to push changes that will also prevent injuries and save lives.

I know I sound like a 100% total Scout shill here, but repair costs are part of the reason I never executed on my Rivian reservation. Now, the proof will be in the real world, but at least Scout is specifically thinking about/addressing repair costs;

"Scout vehicles are designed for competitive cost of ownership through robust repairability and flexible serviceability. From engineering and manufacturing to the Scout Motors national collision partner network, Scout vehicles will be ready for the real world. Approximately 80 percent of repair types can be completed outside of a Scout Workshop, whether in a driveway or while adventuring."

[creaturecat]

RIP International Harvester

this one is cool. for sale ….. https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/cto/d/lethbridge-southeast-classic/7787636802.html

well known Hutterite haulers on the Canadian prairies.

[tdw28210]

Originally Posted by kach22i

Guess they really liked the Rivian.

Not a bad thing.

Agreed, but I think it is more likely the Rivian designers were Scout fans. The new Scout is pretty faithful to the old Scout.

[KNS]

That interior picture looks awfully luxurious, Scouts were anything but. I'm sure that will be reflected in the new car's price.

As far as repairability, hopefully a step in the right direction. Repair costs have gotten ridiculous as evidenced in some part by sky rocketing insurance premiums. While a nod to safety, in many cases consumers didn't ask for all these recent extras but we're paying the price.

[Tobra]

It fills me with indifference

Saw a 2025 Chevy Vintage, 50's look with the LS, push my buttons

[908/930]

Something about the flat dash in most modern cars does not look correct to me, prefer the dash that curves around the driver. Looks like they started with a 2X8 plank.