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onewhippedpuppy 01-09-2025 08:23 AM

I love people that consider “conspiracy theorist” as an insult. God forbid people use their own brains to look at facts and data that might contradict the media or government preferred narrative. Over the last nine years the conspiracy theorists have a way better track record than mainstream media. I’ll take that over the brain dead sheep that simply regurgitate what the government/drug companies/billionaire class/NGOs/intel agencies want to believe and pay the media to put on the air.

Those that are paying attention will recognize that America in particular is facing an epidemic of chronic disease that is worsening. Anyone who thinks that we shouldn’t examine ALL aspects of our food and public health apparatus is a fool. Instead we have a bunch of dumdums who immediately believe that fluoride is awesome just because they hate RFK Jr.

stevej37 01-09-2025 08:31 AM

Living in mid-Michigan, our water supply is taken for granted. I use 'well water' and the taste is better than bottled water...to me anyway.
My water well is 70 ft deep and with many lakes in the area, I feel it's safe.

I rarely buy a bottle of water.

Tobra 01-09-2025 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by IROC (Post 12387722)
Flouride (at the levels in drinking water) is perfectly safe. Geez you guys. :rolleyes:

Great, there is still no reason to add it to the water supply. None

IROC 01-09-2025 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 12387783)
Great, there is still no reason to add it to the water supply. None

Dental health?

Again...geez. :rolleyes:

cockerpunk 01-09-2025 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12387746)
I love people that consider “conspiracy theorist” as an insult. God forbid people use their own brains to look at facts and data that might contradict the media or government preferred narrative. Over the last nine years the conspiracy theorists have a way better track record than mainstream media. I’ll take that over the brain dead sheep that simply regurgitate what the government/drug companies/billionaire class/NGOs/intel agencies want to believe and pay the media to put on the air.

Those that are paying attention will recognize that America in particular is facing an epidemic of chronic disease that is worsening. Anyone who thinks that we shouldn’t examine ALL aspects of our food and public health apparatus is a fool. Instead we have a bunch of dumdums who immediately believe that fluoride is awesome just because they hate RFK Jr.

i believe fluoride in the water is good public health policy, because of the evidence. we've known this long before RFJ Jr had half his brain eaten by a worm, we've known this for nearly 80 years, probably before you were born.

you believe its bad, because it makes you feel special. we are not the same. its not so dumb its brilliant. its just dumb.

please, just find a school bus, they are large and yellow, easy to find, get on one, and take it to wherever it goes. it is 2025, we cannot be having grown ****ing men walking around spouting this absolute stupidity. we have actual problems in real life to deal with, not made up anti-communist conspiracy theories from the 1950s, parroted by people who have had their brain eaten by worms, literally.

cockerpunk 01-09-2025 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 12387783)
Great, there is still no reason to add it to the water supply. None

how about the billions in healthcare costs it prevents?

john70t 01-09-2025 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 12387409)

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/sperm-counts-have-dropped-by-more-than-50-austin-fertility-doctor-explains-why/
"A study published in 2022 found sperm count dropped 51.6% among men worldwide between 1973 and 2018."

https://www.madeformums.com/news/fertility-shock-women-lose-over-80-of-eggs-by-30/
"The reason us women find it harder to conceive as we get older is because by the time we’re 30, most of us have lost about 88% of our eggs, scientists have said."

In some ways lower fertility is not a bad thing.
The world's population has almost tripled since I was in HS.

The problem is we are destroying every other species in the process. And the higher IQ's are cancelling themselves out.

herr_oberst 01-09-2025 10:53 AM

Fluoride denier to Flat Earther is a pretty small step to my way of thinking.

Having said that, I'm also much more apt to listen to someone like Fauchi over RFK.Jr, anyday. But hey, you do you. I'm not going to argue the point.

cockerpunk 01-09-2025 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12387863)
Fluoride denier to Flat Earther is a pretty small step to my way of thinking.

Having said that, I'm also much more apt to listen to someone like Fauchi over RFK.Jr, anyday. But hey, you do you. I'm not going to argue the point.

at some point we are going to have to stop bailing these people out, and let them live exactly how they intend to. and that that death of civilization happen while the rest of us just move on.

raw milk is the newest fad. it would be fine to let that one run its course except of course the risk of a bird flu pandemic it creates. cause we all want to have another one of those right?

john70t 01-09-2025 11:09 AM

But what do infants eat?

(filing a patent for inward microwave bras at the moment)

john70t 01-09-2025 11:17 AM

There are a few major rivers clogged with plastic waste, creating most of ocean pollution.
Clean those up and it would be a significant improvement.

My ideas:
1). Build filter dam stations before the coast that don't affect fish. That will be difficult.

2). Plasma generators with huge NOX converters to turn it into electricity and neutral molecules.

3). Factories to turn into commonly-used materials. Building legos providing good R insulation value. Concrete pore material to lessen the use of that. Barriers. Benches. Tables. Whatever they need more of. Two birds one stone. Free material.

onewhippedpuppy 01-09-2025 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 12387868)
at some point we are going to have to stop bailing these people out, and let them live exactly how they intend to. and that that death of civilization happen while the rest of us just move on.

raw milk is the newest fad. it would be fine to let that one run its course except of course the risk of a bird flu pandemic it creates. cause we all want to have another one of those right?

PLEASE, it would be AWESOME if you stopped bestowing your great wisdom on the world and just let people make their own decisions. Of course that would require you to admit that nobody gives a damn about what you say. If you’d like to blindly trust our large corporations and public health agencies that have been caught lying to us and fined for decades, be my guest. If it were 100 years ago you’d be calling us lead deniers, that one worked out pretty well…..:rolleyes:

cockerpunk 01-09-2025 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12387900)
PLEASE, it would be AWESOME if you stopped bestowing your great wisdom on the world and just let people make their own decisions. Of course that would require you to admit that nobody gives a damn about what you say. If you’d like to blindly trust our large corporations and public health agencies that have been caught lying to us and fined for decades, be my guest. If it were 100 years ago you’d be calling us lead deniers, that one worked out pretty well…..:rolleyes:

oh for sure. the only issue is when because we are both humans, your decision effects other people. its a nasty, but inevitable truth of the universe. what you do, effects those around you. sorry. that was supposed to have come up in middle school or so, its a normal human development from child to adult to understand this basic fact.



ie, when the raw milk people start another world wide pandemic and millions die like that last time, of a a totally preventable flu, that could have been stopped by a cheap, easy, well understood, with no downsides process like pasteurization.

i mean i know you guys response is going to be having meltdowns in target, and ****ting yourself taking pointless dewormer, but the rest of the human race feels bad when millions die for no reason. its a part of being a good person. you feel bad when millions of people die because someone, somewhere wanted to feel special, and rejected long settled, basic, elementary school level science. its an inbuilt biological response to prevent the human race from dying off.



if there was a way to just cut those people out of society, id be happy to advocate for that. the rest of us could live fun, happy, lives, without having to worry some dip **** wants to feel special and puts all the rest of us at risk. but i live in the real world so, sadly we do have worry about dip****s who believe nonsense. and we should stop them from putting everyone at risk with sound public health policies. like pasteurization, and fluoride for our teeth.

onewhippedpuppy 01-09-2025 11:39 AM

Yup, I knew you couldn’t just STFU. By the way genius that “dewormer” that you and your other CNN sheep buddies shrieked about from behind your triple masks is now a CDC recommended treatment for CV19. Also pretty sure drinking raw milk doesn’t cause pandemics. Tell me again why anybody should listen to you?

cockerpunk 01-09-2025 11:40 AM

i mean this is why no one is really mad about flat earthers. they only really hurt themselves, and the rest of us can just go on with our day. like i dont give a **** if your dumb enough to believe the earth is flat when you could easily prove it to yourself in about 5 minutes with a stick and the suns shadow. i suppose it does need to be a sunnyish day for that to happen.



the only real issue with believing in total nonsense, is the danger it poses to people who arnt dumb as ****. thats when we have to intervene, and stop the nonsense.

cockerpunk 01-09-2025 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12387908)
Yup, I knew you couldn’t just STFU. By the way genius that “dewormer” that you and your other CNN sheep buddies shrieked about from behind your triple masks is now a CDC recommended treatment for CV19. Also pretty sure drinking raw milk doesn’t cause pandemics. Tell me again why anybody should listen to you?

no, it doesnt. the CDC does not recommend ivermectin for the treatment of Covid19.

and yes, it can. by getting enough humans sick with it, that it mutates into something that can transfer between humans. thats literally how pandemics start, JFC. im sorry germ theory is true. it just is. we've known for nearly 200 years now.

this is a high school level understanding of the world. please god, just go to school.

KFC911 01-09-2025 11:51 AM

LOL ... we grew up with lead paint, no helmets, drank from creeks and garden hoses, played with REAL guns and M-80s.... not to mention the excesses of the 70s and beyond....

Plastic .... Death by the Ono Band ... meh...

But bottled H2O is freakin' stoooopid ;)

mjohnson 01-09-2025 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12387754)
Living in mid-Michigan, our water supply is taken for granted. I use 'well water' and the taste is better than bottled water...to me anyway.
My water well is 70 ft deep and with many lakes in the area, I feel it's safe.

I rarely buy a bottle of water.

You're not as old as my dad, but as a GR baby born in '48 he was one of the early ones to get the commie-mind-control-toxic-waste flavoring added to his municipal water. Anecdatapoint, yes, but his teeth are great though from my 50+y experience with him I'm wondering on the mental stuff. Then again, he is my dad, and much of my mind is still gloriously full of teenage opinions.

West of the city, the fertile grounds from which I spring, many wells are getting tainted from the little stripper oil wells. My parents had to cap theirs and use city water out in the Grandville/Standale metroplex. At least their sinks and bathtubs aren't iron-stained anymore. That water was crap before it got contaminated...

Without F- ions in my sippy cup, I got the horrible honestly-toxic-waste fluoride treatment gel at every dentist visit. To this day one of the artificial fruit flavors will send me gagging.

stevej37 01-09-2025 12:29 PM

^^^ Wasn't GR the first city in the nation to add fluoride to the water system?
And now we have the contamination from the Wolverine Shoe factories. (not near my water source..thankfully)

I never lived in the city, but I have had the water. It's a strange taste.

Shaun @ Tru6 01-09-2025 02:07 PM

Never seen anything in the rare times I've picked up a bottle of Fiji water, but it seems like we are becoming India and China more every day.


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