You think that the victim, (old guy), went looking for a fight with a young, 230 lb. former NFL player?? Mutual combat is when two guys, (or gals), are mouthing off to one another and one says, "you want to take it outside?" and the other says, "let's go."

You seem confused...when attacked, anyone tries to fight back. That is not, "mutual combat." :rolleyes:

What bit sounds like mutual combat?

from the same article, they now have a timeline of activity.
We all know that the article could be total crap that's intended to spark outrage that the QD beat up an old man. I think we all, also know that there are old dudes that are dumb enough to start crap with a young fit dude whether they think they can take him or think that they can bluff their way to a win.

We just don't know. The old man could have been mouthy and started crap. My thoughts tend to mirror the picture that the article tries to paint "old guy gets stomped by younger, fitter hot head". But we all know that there's no telling what really happened without having video with clear audio or being there.

If I’m truly scared for my life, I’m not pulling out the pepper spray. I’m using my words. 99% of altercations I’ve been in has been resolved by a simple “yeah man, you’re right”. The fact they had some extensive dialogue would insinuate mutual disagreement and thus some sort of mutual combat. Btw, if I’m fearing for my life, I’m not going to pepper spray someone if i have a knife….



As for the old frail 69 y/o. They have to pass DOT health exams, which was further evident by the fact that the greaseman was able to be the last man standing with a knife in a former NfL quarterback. I question if the greaseman was given the CDL in California or New York and the legality of driving w/o the ability to hear. I’ve heard class 8 trucks being compared to wmds.

Drunk doing sprints in the alley at 1:30 AM? Forget the rest, what sort of psycho does that?

One that may claim he had something slipped into his drink perhaps? Hopefully the hospital got plenty of blood to sample to dispute such a defense in court. The fact that the pepper spray did not phase him seems like he may have been under the influence something stronger than some Hennesy...


On another note, if you've ever been in the vicinity of restaurant grease being collected it is one of the worst smells going. Worked in an office next to a place that would have it done from time to time and it'd make you wanna throw up. It's usually done at night, like in this instance, but if the driver that did the place next to my office was running late it happen when we were coming in early in the AM. Like any vacuum to create suction air would exit the holding tank and you could almost taste it. Never ate there after meeting its suck truck.

It can’t be worse than a honey dipper cleaning a Porta Jon. The smell when they clean them, is so strong, I don’t know how they do it.

I don’t think the vacuum nor the smell was the issue. Probably the idled up diesel in a confined space that echoed the noise up the building. I’ve been awaken in a lot of expensive downtown hotels by delivery diesels in the middle of the night.

I've been on a ton of construction sites when my last night's dinner was being removed from the blue box by a pumper truck and believe me when I say waste kitchen grease is worse. They do not collect it weekly, so it gets dam ripe sitting there in the alley for a month or so..... Googled it and apparently, it's referred to as Yellow Grease.

for the DOT health exam you walk into an office in the back of a truck stop and the "doctor" takes your money and signs the paper. 3 minutes.

This is exactly how my medical 'exam' was administered when I was licensed to drive a school bus. We talked sports for a few minutes, he signed the paper, and that was it. Never was asked a single question about my health.

I was really hoping to see more of what took place between the two men but guess this is all we have for now. Still doesn't really show how the confrontation went down. But I get why they are going after Sanchez.

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It's unfortunate that we didn't get any video of the altercation, but like you said, that doesn't make things look better for Sanchez. He did look inebriated and did look like he was just wandering around and potentially made his own trouble. He certainly wasn't "doing sprints" LOL!

there's a lot of foot traffic for early morning !