need to make a cabinet ⅛" more narrow - possible?

[look 171]

Woo hoo

[gregpark]

Is your house plumbed for naural gas? I've re-jetted natural gas stoves to run on propane. It's a pressure thing i believe. Maybe easier to convert? I have a 1920 stove that is individualy carbuerated at each burner and I got it to work

[LWJ]

^^^Pretty sure the difference between NG and LPG is the orifice. I was led to believe it was due to different BTU's way back when I worked in the compressed gas industry. But you know what? An orifice could counter a different pressure so now I don't know what to think.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by gregpark

Is your house plumbed for naural gas? I've re-jetted natural gas stoves to run on propane. It's a pressure thing i believe. Maybe easier to convert? I have a 1920 stove that is individualy carbuerated at each burner and I got it to work

No, we're too remote for NG. You've posted that stove before, very cool!

Originally Posted by LWJ

^^^Pretty sure the difference between NG and LPG is the orifice. I was led to believe it was due to different BTU's way back when I worked in the compressed gas industry. But you know what? An orifice could counter a different pressure so now I don't know what to think.

Yeah. There are a couple of variations over the years. In some cases, you need to change out the orifice caps at each burner and in the case of some, the orifice caps are adjustable.



or adjustable. This is from my stove.

[gregpark]

Yeah, I believe the difference in pressure between NG and LPG is ¼lb VS 4 lb.s or something like that. I remember buying a propane range for a rental once and it came set up for NG but also a zip lock bag with propane jets. Easy job to swap them
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Steve, I rent a tank from the same gas company I pay to supply and fill it .I thought about buying one but it makes way more sense for me to rent. A 300 gal. tank THEY set up. They are also responsible for the gauge, tank, fire or even if a tree falls on it. All for $45 a year. They come by now and then and fill to 80% and send a bill once a year, beautiful.
Whether you rent or buy, they won't (and shouldn't) fill above 80% so you might want more than a 100 gal tank. You could heat the house with gas! and even add gas lighting (which I did and love) but you would needed at least a 300 gal. tank.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by gregpark

Yeah, I believe the difference in pressure between NG and LPG is ¼lb VS 4 lb.s or something like that. I remember buying a propane range for a rental once and it came set up for NG but also a zip lock bag with propane jets. Easy job to swap them
.
Steve, I rent a tank from the same gas company I pay to supply and fill it .I thought about buying one but it makes way more sense for me to rent. A 300 gal. tank THEY set up. They are also responsible for the gauge, tank, fire or even if a tree falls on it. All for $45 a year. They come by now and then and fill to 80% and send a bill once a year, beautiful.
Whether you rent or buy, they won't (and shouldn't) fill above 80% so you might want more than a 100 gal tank. You could heat the house with gas! and even add gas lighting (which I did and love) but you would needed at least a 300 gal. tank.

Yeah, I'd love to switch the heat and water heater to propane on top of adding the new stove. We actually looked into getting a larger tank a while back. A larger tank has to be out away from the house, basically in the middle of the yard which the missus doesn't like. It's also possible to have the tank buried which obviously adds a fair amount to the installation costs. A 100# tank is the largest tank that can be installed without having to place the tank away from the house. That's the reason why we are going with that. With the 100# tank, I'm going to have to schlep this thing back and forth to the propane fill place. I have seen that some folks install dual propane tanks when they are smaller. It may be nice to have 2 tanks that way if one runs dry unexpectedly, we have a second. And being able to move 2x 100# tanks will be easier than moving a 200# tank.

[gregpark]

No propane service there? I would think there would be. I buried 400' of gas line, and my 300 gal. tank sits inside the gate out of view and danger from the house. The propane truck comes twice a year, spring and fall. They have a key to my gate. No muss no fuss

[masraum]

Originally Posted by gregpark

No propane service there? I would think there would be. I buried 400' of gas line, and my 300 gal. tank sits inside the gate out of view and danger from the house. The propane truck comes twice a year, spring and fall. They have a key to my gate. No muss no fuss

We could definitely get propane service from one of a couple of places. There are tons of folks around here with propane. Actually, this house had propane at some point in the past. There are still some lines under the house, and I've removed the lines that used to come up through the floor in a couple of spots.

We just don't currently have a need for it with only the stove. And I don't see us replacing the HVAC with something running propane any time soon (although the system is old and should be replaced). It wouldn't hurt to replace the water heater sooner rather than later. I've looked at the hybrid heat-pump water heaters. Initial expense is higher, but I think that would be fairly efficient for us.

[gregpark]

Even with a 100 gallon tank you'd need it delivered. An empty 100 gal. tank is over 100 lb.s and full of LPG is well over 500 lb.s

[masraum]

Originally Posted by gregpark

Even with a 100 gallon tank you'd need it delivered. An empty 100 gal. tank is over 100 lb.s and full of LPG is well over 500 lb.s

Did I say 100 Gal? No, we're going with 100# tanks, 2 of them. They can be set right up against the house as long as they are 3' (or is it 5') from a window and 10' from an ignition source. 100 pound tanks are 4' tall and 18" around. The propane places won't come fill those, you have to transport the 100# tanks to them.

[look 171]

propane burns hotter then natural gas and that's one of the reason for a smaller orifice.

[gregpark]

My bad, 100 pounds not gallons. Still, going to be 170 lb.s full. Rig up a boom to unload? Or maybe a lift gate?

[A930Rocket]

The homes I’m building right now, use propane for the cooktop, water heater, and fireplace. Pressure is 2lbs.

Looks like Texas has different rules for propane/natural gas, than SC. In SC, you can have them closer to the house and property line.

From Texas Best Propane: