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| Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Washington, DC 
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				BOYCOTT of UPS
			 
			Sent a PERFECT deck lid to a fellow Pelican via UPS and they damaged it and now will not pony up despite the fact that I paid for insurance. Screw the little guy once again. BOYCOTT UPS. 
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			I'm in.  I have had nothing but marginal to very bad experiences with them.  Not a good one yet.  I avaiod them whenever possible.
		 
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|  10-10-2003, 09:01 AM | 
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			I'd be in, except I'd also have to boycott FedEx, Airborne and DHL. It would give me very few shipping options. Ugh... There are two types of people, those that have been "effed" by the above mentioned shipping companies and those that will be.   Last edited by john_colasante; 10-10-2003 at 09:21 AM.. | ||
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			Guess what?  They never will mak it good.   Lost an entire computer system, 2 flat screen monitors, $600 digital camera and two rather expensive travel cases. Total for everythign waas around $6000.00 Just disappeared... They said the limit of their liability was $100. Even with insurance. 
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|  10-10-2003, 09:14 AM | 
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			This is what happened to a dcklid that I shipped a few months ago.  UPS did pay a claim on the shipping insurance.  However, the degree of damage is unbelievable.  They must have run it over with a fork lift.  Do you think we damaged it?  Duh.   
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|  10-10-2003, 09:23 AM | 
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			For their insurance to be worth the paper it's written on the item in question must be packaged in such a way that it would be virtually impossible for the item to get damaged. If it does get damaged the packaging is always at fault.  Anyone else see a problem with that? | ||
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			Sounds like the makings of a class action...
		 
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|  10-10-2003, 09:49 AM | 
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			Well guys, its the same thing with home insurance. They will have you build a fire-proof house, then FORCED you to get it insured against fire.  As someone says: insurance is like lotery tickets. As someone else said: insurance companies doesnt want our good (safety), they want our goods (money). - translated from French where good means «biens» and in French «biens» means both our healthy condition AND our money. Anyhow, you never win with them..... unlike the loteries. 
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|  10-10-2003, 09:53 AM | 
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			Sabin, what is the whole phrase? It may come in handy sometime. James 
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|  10-10-2003, 09:58 AM | 
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			i have had great luck with UPS on small or intermediate sized packages. Not so with items that are quite large.   As Sammy says, they will have a guy look at the damaged package and say "it wasn't packaged properly" to ship a large item i think a wooden crate would be the only way to make it failsafe. 
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			farleyd did you have problems with ins?  if so who so we can stay away.  thanks.
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|  10-10-2003, 10:04 AM | 
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			Believe it or not, most of the damaged occurs to these packages in automated sorting machines as the pieces are routed through the shipping hubs. With the volume of packages they handle, the conveyer(sp?) belts are jammed full, which results in pictures shown above. It really has become a big problem, especially with certain parts that are both difficult and expensive to replace. If this decklid were the aluminum version, it would be a nighmare to settle a claim with UPS! Try using DHL......great service and good prices too. Good luck - Jim | ||
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			I just used greyhound to ship a fiberglass decklid/rsr3.8 style wing.  Package came through in great shape.
		 
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			I shipped an SC front valence out to California, and, as I understand it, it arrived looking like a pretzel. I didn't charge the guy for it to begin with (fellow Pelicanite) and it didn't have insurance, so there wasn't much we could do. I felt bad, but at least all that the guy was out was for the shipping cost.
		 
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			Red-beard, phrase in French is: Les compagnies d’assurances ne veulent pas votre bien, ils veulent vos biens....» Storminn48061, problems i had arent related to shipping and/or handling. Its when i order from USA and they charge their ridiculous brokerage fees - like 44US$ brokerage over a 59US$ value packages... Ive read somewhere that if it werent of those brokerage fees profits, UPS Canada wouldnt even exist! Our own Canada Post (your USPS) is very efficient and is yet to lose/damage one of my packages. When i buy from USA, i EXPRESSILY mention NO UPS PLEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAASE!!!!!!! Worked so far. 
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 LEXAN ?!? Anyway - Greyhound did take it. Only problem, arrived totally splattered with coffee!!! I think someone used the package as a coffee table someplace for a couple of days... James 
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|  10-10-2003, 10:24 AM | 
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			Hmmm. A Lexan rear Targa window? How much, and where can I get one?
		 
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|  10-10-2003, 10:30 AM | 
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			OK, I can't believe I am going to say this. I fly a private jet weekly between NYC and LA. When a fellow Pelicanite gets in trouble on something difficult to ship, you can ask me. You'd have to deliver it to the airport and pick it up at the airport, but I'd be willing to carry stuff from time to time. I too have had nightmare shipping experiences. 
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			Funny, I just got back from a Greyhound terminal to ship a Valance and running boards. No one else would ship this item because of it's size. First time using them and it was downright CHEAP. Shipped from NJ to MD for $19 and will be there by 9 tonite. Not bad. 
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|  10-10-2003, 10:35 AM | 
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			Singpilot, Ever fly to Morristown aiport? 
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