Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Virginia Rocks!
 
VaSteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Just outside the beltway
Posts: 8,497
Think it's because it's a death trap???

GM Tells Dealers to Stop Selling Aveo
51 minutes ago Add Business - AP to My Yahoo!


By JOHN PORRETTO, AP Auto Writer

DETROIT - General Motors Corp. has notified Chevrolet dealers to stop selling the recently launched Aveo, the automaker's new Korean-made entry-level car, a spokesman said Thursday.




GM spokesman Jim Schell, who handles recall and product-safety communications, confirmed the company had issued a "stop delivery" notice to dealers, but he couldn't elaborate on the notification.


"Obviously, the dealers are honoring that," Schell told The Associated Press. "Any more information would be partial."


GM, the world's largest automaker, has had three recalls this month involving more than 2.5 million vehicles.


The Aveo has been on sale in North America for only a few months. GM reported 1,559 Aveo sales in the United States in January.


With a starting price of $10,000, Aveo is designed to give GM a player in a highly competitive segment that includes the Hyundai Accent, Kia Rio and Toyota Echo. Auto executives and analysts say low-priced offerings are important because they often are a consumer's first experience with an automaker.


The Aveo, available as a four-door or five-door sedan, is built overseas by a venture called GM Daewoo Automotive & Technology Co.


GM had said it expected to sell between 50,000 and 70,000 Aveos annually, which would place it near the top of the segment with the Accent and Rio.

__________________
Rosewood 1983 911 SC Targa | Black 1990 944 S2 | White 1980 BMW R65 | Past: Crystal 1986 944 na
Guards Red is for the Unoriginal
Old 02-19-2004, 09:00 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
djmcmath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: West of Seattle
Posts: 4,718
Is it just me, or have car names gone way south in recent years? Who in their right mind would drive a Kia Sephia? Say it three times fast, then just try to be halfway manly about it, you'll find it's nearly impossible. Toyota Echo isn't really any better. Now Aveo? How stupid is that? I mean, remember the good ol' days? You could say you drove a Mustang or a 'Cuda . Now today's young men have to settle for Kia Rio . Aargh ...

Dan
__________________
'86 911 (RIP March '05)
'17 Subaru CrossTrek
'99 911 (Adopt an unloved 996 from your local shelter today!)
Old 02-19-2004, 09:10 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
You do not have permissi
 
john70t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: midwest
Posts: 39,903
Unfortunately, the head-to-head crash-test rating was done with the 7200lb. Excursion at 80mph on a two lane road. For neurotic soccer moms: that's over 3 tons of material to haul the 70lb. kid.

I'll be glad when manufacturers start labeling their vehicles sensibly:
example BH05C
B-Buick
H-Hyundai association
05-The year it actually started selling(not the "'05" models built in 11/03 and released to dealers 01/04).
C-the low cost version. "A" being the lightweight sport model.

Good post, thanks for the heads up. This might mean "replacement parts NLA or $$$). Too bad.
__________________
Meanwhile other things are still happening.

Last edited by john70t; 02-19-2004 at 10:19 AM..
Old 02-19-2004, 10:16 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
djmcmath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: West of Seattle
Posts: 4,718
7200lbs? That's incredible. I mean, that's like ... almost 3 of my car, which is more than adequate to move a 70lb soccer player around. Incredible.
__________________
'86 911 (RIP March '05)
'17 Subaru CrossTrek
'99 911 (Adopt an unloved 996 from your local shelter today!)
Old 02-19-2004, 02:37 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
one of gods prototypes
 
bell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Orlando florida
Posts: 9,741
Garage
Send a message via AIM to bell Send a message via Yahoo to bell
remember daewoo tried the us market and failed.......maybe they're trying to duck back into the us market under gm cover..............
__________________
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Old 02-19-2004, 03:51 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
exc911ence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Victoria BC
Posts: 2,412
Garage
Quote:
Originally posted by djmcmath
Is it just me, or have car names gone way south in recent years? Who in their right mind would drive a Kia Sephia? Say it three times fast, then just try to be halfway manly about it, you'll find it's nearly impossible. Toyota Echo isn't really any better. Now Aveo? How stupid is that? I mean, remember the good ol' days? You could say you drove a Mustang or a 'Cuda . Now today's young men have to settle for Kia Rio . Aargh ...

Dan
It's not just you, I've had this discussion with many of my car buddies. Camry? WTF is that? It's not even a word! There are a few good names left out there though... Chrysler Sebring (like the racetrack), Toyota Matrix (lame car, cool movie), Ford Mustang/Thunderbird (classics), Chevrolet Impala (lame car, cool history), etc.

Think of any others?
__________________
1979 911SC "Frankencab"

Dave
Old 02-19-2004, 07:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Unsafe at any speed
 
Nader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: East of Seattle
Posts: 662
Remember the Mitsubishi Starion? I read in a car mag that it was supposed to be "Stallion" but the Japanese would pronounce it Starion. So it stuck. Heh heh.
__________________
87 Carrera Coupe
Old 02-19-2004, 10:00 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Virginia Rocks!
 
VaSteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Just outside the beltway
Posts: 8,497
Quote:
Originally posted by BillyPilgrim

I don’t like “names” for cars at all. Give me numbers and letters. I like the BMW and Mercedes naming schemes. Know the model and you automatically know the body style and engine. Names are easy to mispronounce. They have their own connotations, and stir emotions, either positive or negative, all by themselves. Let the cars make their own statements.

Unfortunately our cars have a number that's now associated with a particularly nasty memory. But I would rather not go there.
__________________
Rosewood 1983 911 SC Targa | Black 1990 944 S2 | White 1980 BMW R65 | Past: Crystal 1986 944 na
Guards Red is for the Unoriginal
Old 02-20-2004, 04:13 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
JavaBrewer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: North County San Diego
Posts: 8,818
Garage
So I'm reading this Sport Truck mag

Quote:
Originally posted by djmcmath
7200lbs? That's incredible. I mean, that's like ... almost 3 of my car, which is more than adequate to move a 70lb soccer player around. Incredible.
Checkout these stats from the Dec. 03 issue of Sport Truck. It's a shootout of some tuned trucks/SUVs.

03 Ford F-250
Engine: 6.0L turbodiesel
Suspension: ProComp 2" lift
Tires: BFG All-Terrain KO 315/70 R17 (35" tires)
Performance Mods: modified blow off valve w/high flow air tube, Bully Dog program, 3.73 gears, 4" Bully Dog cat back exhaust.

Ok ready for this:
HP 499, Torque 913 ft/lb
Vehicle weight: 7720 lbs
1/4 mile: 14.39 @ 93.02 mpg

Next up -
03 Chevy Duramax
Engine: 6.6L turbodiesel
Suspension: Tuff Country 4" lift front, 2"-6" air suspension rear
Tires: 315/75 R16 (35" tires)
Performance Mods: modified blow off valve w/high flow air tube, Bully Dog program, 3.73 gears, 4" Bully Dog cat back exhaust. Tranny has upgraded valvebody, springs, and clutches.

Bottom line:
HP 523, Torque 893 ft/lb
Vehicle weight: 7860 lbs
1/4 mile: 14.21 @ 93.04 mpg


Big and fast seems defintely in.
Old 02-20-2004, 05:54 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Virginia Rocks!
 
VaSteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Just outside the beltway
Posts: 8,497
Re: So I'm reading this Sport Truck mag

Quote:
Originally posted by dmoolenaar



1/4 mile: 14.39 @ 93.02 mpg

1/4 mile: 14.21 @ 93.04 mpg


Big and fast seems defintely in.
At those MPG's I'd buy one too!!

__________________
Rosewood 1983 911 SC Targa | Black 1990 944 S2 | White 1980 BMW R65 | Past: Crystal 1986 944 na
Guards Red is for the Unoriginal
Old 02-20-2004, 07:57 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 7,492
Garage
4Runner
Accent
Acclaim
Accord
Achieva
Aerio
Aerostar
Alero
Allante
Alliance
Altima
Amigo
Aries
Arnage
Arrow
Ascender
Aspen
Aspire
Astro
Aurora
Avalanche
Avenger
Aviator
Axiom
Axxess
Aztek
Azure
Baja
Barchetta
Beetle
Beretta
Blackwood
Blazer
Bonneville
Boxter
Brat
Brava
Bravada
Breeze
Bronco
Brooklands
Brougham
Caballero
Cabrio
Cabriolet
Calais
Camargue
Camry
Capri
Caprice
Caravan
Caravelle
Catera
Cavalier
Cayenne
Celebrity
Celica
Century
Challenger
Champ
Charade
Charger
Cherokee
Chevelle
Chevette
Cheyenne
Ciera
Cimarron
Cirrus
Citation
Civic
Club Wagon
Colorado
Colt
Comanche
Concord
Concorde
Conquest
Continental
Contour
Cooper
Cordia
Cordoba
Corniche
Corolla
Corrado
Corsica
Corvette
Cougar
Countach
Courier
Cressida
Crown Victoria
Cutlass
Dakota
Dart
Dasher
Daytona
Defender
del Sol
DeVille
Diablo
Diamante
Dino
Diplomat
Discovery
Durango
Duster
Dynasty
Eagle
Echo
Eclipse
Econoline
Eight
Eighty-Eight
Elantra
ElCamino
Eldorado
Electra
Element
Encore
Envoy
Equinox
Escalade
Escape
Escort
Esperante
Esprit
Estate
Esteem
Eurovan
Excel
Excursion
Expedition
Explorer
Expo
Express
Fairmont
Festiva
Fiero
Fifth Avenue
Firebird
Firenza
Fleetwood
Focus
Forester
Fox
Freelander
Frontier
Fuego
Galant
Golf
Graduate
Gran Fury
Grand Am
Grand Prix
Grand Voyager
Gremlin
Grenada
Highlander
Hombre
Horizon
Hornet
Hummer
Impala
Imperial
Impreza
Impulse
Insight
Integra
Intrepid
Intrigue
Javelin
Jetta
Jimmy
Justy
Kodiak
Lagonda
Lancer
Land Cruiser
Lanos
Laser
LeBaron
Legacy
Leganza
Legend
LeMans
LeSabre
Liberte
Liberty
Loyale
Lumina
Luv
Lynx
Malibu
Mangusta
Marquis
Matador
Matrix
Maxima
Medallion
Metro
Miata
Midget
Milano
Millenia
Mirada
Mirage
Modena
Monaco
Mondial
Montana
Monte Carlo
Montero
Mountaineer
Mulsanne
Murano
Murcielago
Mustang
Mystique
Navajo
Navigator
Neon
New Yorker
Newport
Ninety-Eight
Nova
Nubira
Oasis
Odyssey
Omega
Omni
Optima
Outback
Outlander
Pacer
Pacifica
Parisienne
Park Avenue
Park Ward
Paseo
Passat
Passport
Pathfinder
Phaeton
Phantom
Phoenix
Pilot
Pininfarina
Precis
Prelude
Premier
Previa
Prizm
Probe
Protégé
Prowler
Pruis
PT Cruiser
Pulsar
Quadrifoglio
Quantum
Quattro
Quest
Rabbit
Raider
Rally
Ram
Ramcharger
Rampage
Range Rover
Ranger
Reatta
Rebel
Regal
Regency
Reliant
Rendezvous
Rio
Riviera
Roadmaster
Roadster
Rocky
Rodeo
Sable
Safari
Safari
Samuri
Santa Fe
Sapporo
Savana
Scamp
Scirocco
Scorpio
Scrambler
Sebring
Sedona
Sentra
Sephia
Sequoia
Seville
Shadow
Sidekick
Sienna
Sierra
Sigma
Silhouette
Silver Dawn
Silver Seraph
Silver Shadow
Silver Spirit
Silver Spur
Silver Wraith
Silverado
Skyhawk
Skylark
Solara
Somerset
Sonata
Sonoma
Sorento
Spectra
Spectrum
Spider
Spirit
Sportage
Sportvan
Sprint
Spyder
St. Regis
Stanza
Starion
Starlet
Stealth
Storm
Strada
Stratus
Stylus
Suburban
Suburban
Summit
Sunbird
Sundance
Sunfire
Supra
Swift
Tacoma
Tahoe
Talon
Taurus
Tempo
Tercel
Testarossa
Thunderbird
Tiburon
Titan
Topaz
Toronado
Touareg
Town & Country
Town Car
tracker
TrailBlazer
Trans Sport
Tredia
Tribute
Trooper
Tundra
Turbo
Turismo
Vanagon
Vandura
Vanquish
Vantage
VehiCROSS
Venture
Vibe
Vigor
Villager
Viper
Virage
Vision
Vitara
Voyager
Wagoneer
Windstar
Wrangler
Xterra
Yukon
Zephyr
Old 02-20-2004, 05:00 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
exc911ence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Victoria BC
Posts: 2,412
Garage
Are these the good ones? My eyes hurt now...
__________________
1979 911SC "Frankencab"

Dave
Old 02-20-2004, 05:38 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 7,492
Garage
I dunno. I was just going for the longest post.
Old 02-20-2004, 06:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
exc911ence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Victoria BC
Posts: 2,412
Garage
Quote:
Originally posted by cegerer
I dunno. I was just going for the longest post.
Need a longer post? Try this: http://www.fastsize.com/about.php

__________________
1979 911SC "Frankencab"

Dave
Old 02-20-2004, 10:43 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 7,492
Garage
Ouch.
Old 02-21-2004, 04:59 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered
 
djmcmath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: West of Seattle
Posts: 4,718
Holy cripes, cegerer -- that was almost painful to scroll through, let alone read. Wow...


Dan

__________________
'86 911 (RIP March '05)
'17 Subaru CrossTrek
'99 911 (Adopt an unloved 996 from your local shelter today!)
Old 02-21-2004, 08:01 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:42 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.