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			Conservatives would NEVER bash an opponent. Ain't their style...They are too sophisticated for those kinds of shennanigans.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11. You have to believe that the military, not corrupt politicians, start wars. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			Hehe, so Conservatives believe that corrupt politicians start wars. Hehehehe.      
		
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			of course, if they're democrats  
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			 
		
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			Only corrupt democrats start wars, silly.  Republicans who start wars are heroes.  If you disagree, you're close-minded and a bleeding-heart liberal.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Porsche-o-Phile:  Kerry has a message?  Since when?  I missed a memo.  Unless you refer to "things are reallyreallyreally bad and it's all W's fault I'll make everything better (details to follow...)" as a "message." 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			What I was referring to, directly as it turns out, is the "Oh, well somebody's been listening to Limbaugh" delivered, full stop, as though it's some sort of rebuttal; or some bizarro feeble attempt to discredit the orator while evading the merits of the message being delivered. Do conservatives lapse into this -- yeah. Those are the conservatives I don't particularly care for. However, it is the stock-in-trade of high-profile Liberals. Just tune into it and you'll hear it a lot. Something will be said, a question or issue raised and you'll get a permutation of one of these: the Rush Limbaugh origin "defense", without addressing the merits b/c it de facto concludes there are no merits to be addressed (mmmm... craven), or that its from the "Republican Attack Machine" full stop (evidently that's a reworked "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy," b/c the VRWC proved correct too frequently), or as Kerry pulled during a TV interview with someone who saw him throw his medals over the fence, assert that there's a messenger (in this case Kerry blamed the medal-tossing-lie issue on W personally) then attack the messenger you've just attributed for something entirely unrelated to the issue (which Kerry did by claiming, in a barefaced lie that W hadn't released his military records and couldn't "prove" (to whose satisfaction I can only guess) that W had performed his service in the Guard). Kerry couldn't deal with the message, created a "strawmessenger" and attacked it!! And then lost to the strawmessenger, IMHO. Attempt to wield a sword, you'd better learn how to parry with one... JP 
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