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WMD? Wonder what the spin will be on this.

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A small amount of the nerve agent sarin was found in a shell that exploded in Iraq, the U.S. army said Monday in the first announcement of discovery of any of the weapons on which Washington made its case for war.
Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt told a news conference the substance had been found in an artillery shell inside a bag discovered by a U.S. convoy a few days ago. The round had exploded, causing a small release of the substance, he said.

"The Iraq Survey Group has confirmed today that a 155 (mm) artillery round containing sarin nerve agent had been found. The round had been rigged as an IED (improvised explosive device) that was discovered by a U.S. force convoy," he said.

"A detonation occurred before the IED be could be rendered inoperable," Kimmitt said, adding that two members of an explosives team had been treated for exposure to the substance.

Kimmitt said the round, designed to mix the sarin in flight, belonged to a class of ordnance that the ousted government of Saddam Hussein claimed to have destroyed before the 1991 Gulf war.

"It is a weapon that we believe was stocked from the ex-regime time, and it had been thought to be an ordinary artillery shell set up to explode like an ordinary IED... when it exploded it indicated that it actually had some sarin in it," he said.

IEDs are bombs usually planted at the side of the road to explode as coalition vehicles pass.

The United States launched its invasion of Iraq last year, accusing then-president Saddam Hussein of developing chemical, biological and possibly nuclear weapons. Failure to find such weapons has stirred criticism in the United States and Britain, Washington's closest ally in the war.
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Kurt, puleeze, we all know that there are not now and have never been WMD's within the borders of Iraq from the Hussien regime. This one was obviously planted by the Boosh administration. As a matter of fact, Hillary Clinton has proof, which is stored with her Rose law firm records, that little Donnie Rumsfeld, while in Iraq last week, personally planted this sarin filled bomb. After Mr Rumsfeld, dropped off the bomb, he conducted personal inspections of 3 POW camps to instruct the Army jailers in new methods of prisoner humiliation. Included in the lesson plans were the best ways to make a camo thong stay on a prisoners head and better posing techniques when pointing at nude prisoners weiners. Mr Rumsfeld was quoted as saying that it was a succesful trip and he looks forward to a return as soon as another political deflection is required.
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Those are not supposed to be found til October...must be a leak.
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Wasn't it Kerry that found the shell with the sarin gas? I think he deserves another medal. I am sure he broke a sweat or something that he could have a doctor sign off that he had an injury.
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Did you guys know that Al Gore invented Sarin?
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No, I didn't know Al invented nerve gas, but I believe Kerry tested it..all the nerves in his face appear to be dead...sorta like a botox injection experiment gone crazy..
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Those are not supposed to be found til October...must be a leak.
now *that's* a funny comment
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Iraq began producing sarin in 1984 and admitted to possessing 790 tons of it in 1995.

The article leaves lots of questions unanswered.

But let's say there were a few ounces of sarin in an artillery shell.

Did we really invade this country because of an artillery shell that didn't get destroyed?
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Wow! That was some quick damage control. See how fast it went from there were not any WMDs to there were not many WMDs! LOL! Sorta like after being caught in a lie.."that depends on the definition of "is""
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If you are really concerned about lies, Fintstone, I'd like to know how you feel about some of the lies that Bush/Cheney and Rumsfeld told us before the war. But of course those would not be lies, just "yet to be proven statements".

They found a thimble full of a banned agent that Iraq once possessed by the ton? And was supposed to have disposed of? I'm shocked! Let's invade Iran! Could be some lead-based paint on the shelf there! It'll only cost $300 billion + countless lives, our stature and goodwill in the world, (Republicans tell me that we don't need this), plus it could be a windfall for Halliburton and create a lot of choice jobs. Some of those workers will get blown up and mutilated on film, but what the hey! Got go now and drive my Hummer w/ the flag stickers on it!

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I repeat, there are no WMD's in Iraq, except those that the Boosh administration is now planting.
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If you are really concerned about lies, Fintstone, I'd like to know how you feel about some of the lies that Bush/Cheney and Rumsfeld told us before the war. But of course those would not be lies, just "yet to be proven statements".
Yep, bet it really hurts that another one of those "yet to be proven statements"....just was.
Bet it really, really hurts to find out that one's own government and president were not lying after all. Such a sad day for liberals!

Nice try to change the topic...LOL
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Do you really think a single artillery shell is a WMD?

On that basis, tainted oysters are WMDs.

Did you read the small detail about the shell being designed to mix the chemicals in flight?
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Oh yea, Amerika Sux and is a horrible place to live. I'm so ashamed. Now where did Alex Baldwon move off to?
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:Oh yea, Amerika Sux and is a horrible place to live."

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Do you really think a single artillery shell is a WMD?

On that basis, tainted oysters are WMDs.

Did you read the small detail about the shell being designed to mix the chemicals in flight?
Of course a single artillery shell with sarin gas is WMD...by definition...duh

Of course I am familiar with binary weapons. They mix during flight to produce the toxin...beats mixing them in your kitchen. You use an artillery piece to launch them...hence "artillery shell" What does that have to do with anything? The article makes it clear that it was rigged as an IED.
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I don't get it. The UN, France, Germany, Russia, Kerry, Kennedy, all of them thought Saddam had MWD. He acted like he had WMD. Why? To keep his neighbors in fear. The difference was the response, sit and wait to see when he uses them, or take action. When someone pulls a gun on a cop and he shots to kill, he doesn't stand there and try to figure out whether its a real gun or a fake. Liberals would say it was a fake gun, conservatives would say he shouldn't have pulled the gun in the first place. Jez, the same with Saddam
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I love all the spin...sorta like this interview of the Mehdi Army leader after his troops were overrun last night:

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Local Mehdi Army leader Sheikh Hamza al-Taai has moved to an undisclosed location inside the city.

"I spoke to Sheikh Hamza this morning and he was lamenting to me the fact that he keeps escaping martyrdom, which he seeks more than any one else among us," he said.
Yep...tough to be a Martyr when you keep hiding among the women and children in mosques. His gullible followers that he sent out to greet the US soldiers seemed to have no trouble dying for the cause...over 50 last night alone.
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And if Bush was Chief of Police, he would say, "we killed the guy with the gun. Now let's bomb his neighborhood and start a riot. I have some friends in the riot re-construction business".
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