Did the "president" say something?

[Superman]

I am told that the "president" gave a speech last night. I am also told that the major networks were offered the opportunity to air it, but declined (not newsworthy, they said). Either he spoke or he didn't, and if he did, the networks were apparently correct. I see no thread here. It's as if there was no speech. Was there a speech? I heard there was one, where the "president" outlined how bad it might get. I guess he didn't want us to be surprised. Candidly, he didn't have me to worry about on that score. Did he take questions? Oops, silly question.

[Burnin' oil]

Why the quotation marks around the word "president?"

[cowtown]

1) Why are you putting quotes around the word president?

2) Yes, he gave a speech, which should have been aired on all the networks (given that he's the president), but was not. Are we judging the import of events by whether they are aired on CBS now?

3) Questions are asked at what's known as a "press conference." This was a speech, hence there were no questions taken. Speeches are one-way communications tools.

I watched it, and thought it was heavy on platitudes, and light on substance. I was also shocked and troubled that he had trouble pronouncing "Abu Gharib."

Still, I'll watch any and all presidential addresses, and respect the office of the president even if I don't agree with the guy all the time.

Signed,
Moderate Colin

[dd74]

Yes, Jim, he spoke. The highlight was his five-step process to end, as the LA Times put it "Chaos in Iraq." I forgot what those steps were, though.

The speech, many say, had no effect. His popularity is sinking fast and 65% of Americans feel we're bogged down in Iraq akin to Vietnam.

His makeup artist did a good job on his face, though after his mountain biking end-over. That's what a lot of H'wood folks were looking for...

[Superman]

Well, George Bush's candidacy, after receiving a "we won't touch this with a ten foot pole" decision by the nation's highest court, turned to Cousin Jeb with the question "okay, who's the president going to be?" Some people feel this is a legitimate way to become United States President. I disagree.

Sure, it's legally binding. Sure, he's regarded as the President of the United States. Sure, he's our Commander in Chief. My point is that he's got the weakest legitimate "mandate" of any president in history. He got less votes than Al Gore. Tens of thousands of black-voter ballots were discarded to achieve this so-called victory. It's cartoon-stuff. And still is. I wonder if GW can pronounce "mendacious." I'd guess not.

The only thing I'd vote him for is "most likely kid in the schoolyard to get punched." If that's your President, then fine. He's my "president."

[techweenie]

I heard it. Well rehearsed, but it really didn't address the key issues of the stages of our exit from Iraq.

I'd give it a 'C.' His makeup looked nice, though.

[Aurel]

He had trouble pronouncing `Abu Grahib`.
I wonder why...

Aurel

[350HP930]

I saw it. SSDD.

[pwd72s]

Nice of you guys to never pass up a chance to bash the president. And why not? ABC, NBC, and See BS all do the same...

[Pete Pranger]

Originally posted by Superman
Well, George Bush's candidacy, after receiving a "we won't touch this with a ten foot pole" decision by the nation's highest court, turned to Cousin Jeb with the question "okay, who's the president going to be?" Some people feel this is a legitimate way to become United States President. I disagree.

Sure, it's legally binding. Sure, he's regarded as the President of the United States. Sure, he's our Commander in Chief. My point is that he's got the weakest legitimate "mandate" of any president in history. He got less votes than Al Gore. Tens of thousands of black-voter ballots were discarded to achieve this so-called victory. It's cartoon-stuff. And still is. I wonder if GW can pronounce "mendacious." I'd guess not.

The only thing I'd vote him for is "most likely kid in the schoolyard to get punched." If that's your President, then fine. He's my "president."

*yawn*

You guys kill me. "The guy I wanted to win didn't so it must have been illegitimate." Whatever. BTW we don't elect a persident by popular vote. You want that changed? Hey, I might even sign a petition right along with you, but the system don't currently work that way.

Must be that "vast right wing conspiracy", huh?

Don't worry Klinton wasn't "my" president either..........

Pete

[350HP930]

An illegitimate president and an illegitimate war. Is that the same thing as a conspiracy?

[Pete Pranger]

Yup, you had probably put the tin foil hat back on..................

[techweenie]

"Nice of you guys to never pass up a chance to bash the president. And why not? ABC, NBC, and See BS all do the same..."

I call bull****. They give that idiot a free pass.

Multiple independent sources have reported that Bush was nearly incoherent in his April 14 press conference, but that the mainstream reporters present failed (or were afraid) to print anything about it.

If you care to know more, you have to look at the non-mainstream press:

http://www.nypress.com/16/11/news&columns/cage.cfm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1192218,00.html

http://www.progressive.org/webex04/wx0413a04.html

[pwd72s]

techweenie? The sources you list speak for themselves...I'm amazed you didn't also lead us to the Kerry campaign website...

[Aurel]

From Abu Garib to Abu Garob


by Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

Simplistic solutions for simpletons by the functionally illiterate Bush.

George Bush has a simplistic, at-a-stroke solution for his many troubles - sweep them under the carpet, smile broadly and pretend they did not happen.

Hand over power in Iraq, demolish the medieval torture chamber called Abu Ghraib and hey presto! What a wonderful new world we live in!

The bad guy has gone, so have his sons, the regime has been defeated, the Iraqi people are free, welcome to freedom and democracy, Washington-style.

The USA pulls out of Iraq, a squeaky-clean modern democracy, mission accomplished, the boys are back home. So...Let's party!

However, the real world is not so limited, the real world is not a rosy-coloured perfect scenario which George Bush will have read in his comics in his childhood (it is well known he prefers books with lots of pictures). The real world is not based on the cowboy-type "You are with us or against us" approach.

Much as George Bush would like to be John Wayne, he has neither the class, not the intelligence, instead appearing more like the drunken low-lifes at the OK Corral.

George Bush once again stiffs his people, stiffs the world. He is not intending to pull out of Iraq. He is intending to keep some 138.000 troops there in permanent military bases, targets for attacks so long as they occupy territory which is not theirs, and a permanent source of justifications for on-going attacks against civilians in the USA. Instead of reducing the security threat, George Bush increases it exponentially.

Iraq is not ready for a hand-over of power because the illegal act of butchery called the "War" has left Iraq without a State. The illegal act of butchery also left thousands of people without loved ones, many of these children. They do not and will not forget. The illegal act of butchery which targeted civilian infrastructures (war crimes), which left cluster bombs in
civilian areas (war crimes),> which left DU munition fragments in cities (war crimes) has left the people of Iraq, the Arab Nation, and a substantial slice of the population of the world, with a sullen and deep-rooted hatred of Washington and anything American.

This is the legacy of Bush, this is the legacy of his simplistic solutions for simpletons, believing as he does that the people of the United States of America are as stupid as he is or as evil as his regime.

Demolishing Abu Ghraib (not Garib nor Garob) does not justify what happened there, it does not clear the slate. The systematic acts of torture perpetrated there not by "a few" but by many American citizens will not, and must not, be forgotten. Let these tortures and this shocking act of butchery
be the legacy of the Bush regime.

Let George Bush and his inability to master the English language and speak intelligibly be a constant reminder of his incompetence to be in his position. He has cost his workers two hundred thousand million dollars of their hard-earned money (which they will have to pay, but they don't know it yet), he has involved his country in an illegal war, he has made Americans war criminals, he is responsible for an act of mass murder, he is responsible for purposefully destroying civilian structures, including homes, with military equipment, he is responsible for tens of thousands of deaths and mutiliations (over 45,000 collectively), he is responsible for
blasting away the futures of a thousand children, he is responsible for leaving swathes of Iraqi territory with dangerously high levels of radiation.

And he thinks he can demolish Abu Ghraib and pretend that the USA pulled out of Iraq, leaving the paltry sum of 138,000 troops behind?

He acts like the husband who got drunk, kicked the dog, fell off his bicycle and had an altercation with a biscuit and the morning after agrees to everything his wife says, smiling broadly, trying to pretend everything is rosy.

This may be OK for Western Texas. It is unacceptable for a President of the United States of America. Time for regime change. This man stiffed the world.

[WOODPIE]

Hey Aurel, are you ready for it? Wouff, Wouff!

Ed

[Aurel]

I am gonna get barked at again...LOL

AUrel

[island911]

Originally posted by Superman
Well, George Bush's candidacy, after receiving a "we won't touch this with a ten foot pole" decision by the nation's highest court, turned to Cousin Jeb with the question "okay, who's the president going to be?" Some people feel this is a legitimate way to become United States President. I disagree.. .

What's this!?

Was there some sort of question as to whether GW Bush won the 2000 presidential election?

Well this is the first I've ever heard of such nonsensical BS.

Geeze Super, have you any idea how many leftist groups went looking for dimpled chads, hoping to find a way to demonstrate doubt over the count. . .. and how many military votes were NOT counted. . .completely thrown-out, due to a technicality? .. .Let it go.

[WOODPIE]

Who is Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey? I hope he has a day job, as I can't say much for his prose. Not taking anything away from his sentiment, mind you...

Ed

[dd74]

Eddie, as usual you speak the truth. Come on out here and let me buy you a beer, man.