Our new VP?

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by LynnsABCs
Could someone from North Carolina who is not a Doctor or Hospital Administrator please give us some insight about Edwards.

Ya, can't trust them damn doctors...Healing people and busting their asses to succeed in the world, creating jobs and cowering in fear because of oppressive Democrat tort scams

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by BlueSkyJaunte
Kerry seems to be saying, "Pucker up, Dick!"

Apparently he was thinking, "You suck Dick?!"

[JavaBrewer]

Originally posted by Moses
Ambulance chasers, skirt chasers, WMD chasers. They're all chasing something. Generally it involves my wallet.

LOL - greatest quote of the day goes to Moses. Nicely done!

[Yankee911]

Hey Mull, you witless wonder---

If you watch the news tonight you would learn that Edwards parents were mill workers and he was 1st in his family to go to college. He defended the little people who were hurt by the big guys. He left his lucrative law practice to be a Senator. Damn--sounds like the American Dream to me.

Of course, you guys would rather have a son of privlege who failed at business and a crook as VP who made a success at stealing. I can see how your guys are better than Edwards--on the crook scale, that is.

Oh ****, I left out how Bush/Cheney raped everybody and will have to raise taxes to pay for their witless war in IRAQ.

[Moses]

Political disclaimer; I am not a republican.

Edwards made his fortune with medical malpractice cases. Specifically, judgements against obstetricians for cerebral palsy cases.

Many decades ago it was commonly assumed that neonatal brain damage that resulted in cerebral palsy was related to the delivery process and MDs were thought responsible and paid heavily. More than thirty years ago, researchers discovered that newborns delivered by routine scheduled Cesarean had the same rate of cerebral palsy as the general population.

The legal community largely abandoned neonatal cerebral palsy as an actionable offense. Except John Edwards. He made it a career. Other attorneys have said that Edwards was just so damn charming in the courtroom that he would routinely convince the jury to disregard current medical standards and reward his clients (and himself) generously.

The man made himself rich by destroying careers and bankrupting physicians who had done nothing wrong. He is an amoral, malevolent opportunist. In other words, a perfect politician.

[Yankee911]

So the little girl caught in the swimming pool drain was a made up case?

It would be nice to hear the unvarnished truth just once around here. Not just more re-hashed Limbaugh crap. You are telling me that all Edward's cases were cerebal palsy cases?? I find that hard to believe. Of course, he had to spew to a jury to get them to destroy the poor mean doctors.

When your Porsche mechanic ****s up your engine rebuild and it blows up within the warranty period---he gets to build it again on his dime.

When the roofing contractor hires drunks to roof your house and it leaks--he gets to honor his warranty.

When a doctor, god-like that he is, ****s up and cripples someone for life, the evil attorney who gets a judgement from a jury to pay for care for the rest of the child's life is an evil Nazi. I'm not buying that ****.

[Halm]

A few years ago when Edwards was campaigning for the Senate, our son was a student at NC State. Keep in mind that at that time my son was totally into women and beer (well, maybe 4 years later he still is!). . . And totally apolitical. In any case, he came home for some reason and mentioned that he had gone to hear JE give a speech. When it was over, he said he felt a need top run to his apartment and shower the slim was so thick!!! FWIW.

[araine901]

I dont think Cheney made his millions making health care cost more.

[Moses]

Originally posted by Yankee911
So the little girl caught in the swimming pool drain was a made up case?

It would be nice to hear the unvarnished truth just once around here. Not just more re-hashed Limbaugh crap. You are telling me that all Edward's cases were cerebal palsy cases?? I find that hard to believe. Of course, he had to spew to a jury to get them to destroy the poor mean doctors.

When your Porsche mechanic ****s up your engine rebuild and it blows up within the warranty period---he gets to build it again on his dime.

When the roofing contractor hires drunks to roof your house and it leaks--he gets to honor his warranty.

When a doctor, god-like that he is, ****s up and cripples someone for life, the evil attorney who gets a judgement from a jury to pay for care for the rest of the child's life is an evil Nazi. I'm not buying that ****.

Read it. It's from the NYTimes:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/31/politics/campaign/31EDWA.html?ex=1089259200&en=e0113afb3eb4e4f1&ei=5070&pagewanted=print&position=

For Wanker911:

Did 'Junk Science' Make John Edwards Rich?
By Marc Morano
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
January 20, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - The superstar trial lawyer accomplishments of John Edwards, which allowed this former millworker to amass a personal fortune, finance his successful U.S. Senate run in 1998 and catapult himself into the 2004 race for president, may have been partially built on "junk science," according to legal and medical experts who spoke with CNSNews.com .

Edwards, who with a late surge finished second in Monday's Iowa Caucuses, continues to cite one of his most lucrative legal victories as an example of how he would stand up for "the little guy" if elected president.

Edwards became one of America's wealthiest trial lawyers by winning record jury verdicts and settlements in cases alleging that the botched treatment of women in labor and their deliveries caused infants to develop cerebral palsy, a brain disorder that causes motor function impairment and lifelong disability.

Although he was involved in other types of personal injury litigation, Edwards specialized in infant cerebral palsy and brain damage cases during his early days as a trial lawyer and with the Raleigh, N.C., firm of Edwards & Kirby.

Edwards has repeatedly told campaign audiences that he fought on behalf of the common man against the large insurance companies. But a political critic with extensive knowledge of Edwards' legal career in North Carolina told CNSNews.com a different story

"Edwards always helped the little guy as long as he got a million dollars out of it," said the source, who did not want to be identified.

The cause of cerebral palsy has been debated since the 19th century. Some medical studies dating back to at least the 1980s asserted that doctors could do very little to cause cerebral palsy during the birthing process. Two new studies in 2003 further undermined the scientific premise of the high profile court cases that helped Edwards become a multi-millionaire and finance his own successful campaign for the U.S. Senate.

Here's more BF-

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=%5CPolitics%5Carchive%5C2004 01%5CPOL20040120a.html

[Moses]

Originally posted by Yankee911

When your Porsche mechanic ****s up your engine rebuild and it blows up within the warranty period---he gets to build it again on his dime.

When the roofing contractor hires drunks to roof your house and it leaks--he gets to honor his warranty.

You think human reproduction comes with a warranty?
So every time you slip one past the goalie and she gets pregnant, you get a healthy child unless someone screws up? Sorry, but that isn't how it works.

The point is that Edwards knew that medical care rarely causes cerebral palsy, but misled the jury for his own benefit.

[Moses]

Originally posted by Halm
A few years ago when Edwards was campaigning for the Senate, our son was a student at NC State. Keep in mind that at that time my son was totally into women and beer (well, maybe 4 years later he still is!). . . And totally apolitical. In any case, he came home for some reason and mentioned that he had gone to hear JE give a speech. When it was over, he said he felt a need top run to his apartment and shower the slim was so thick!!! FWIW.

Your son is a good judge of charachter. http://slate.msn.com/id/2086953/

Edwards could make a dung beetle queasy.

[speeder]

Moses, Let me guess; you have no problems w/ Cheney as a world leader, right? That's what I thought, just checking.

Go back to work now.

No one except the reactionary left think Dick Cheney has done anything wrong. It's all just drummed up noise from the DNC. Too bad some seemingly intelligent people have bought into it.

[osidak]

Who the hell cares about Cheney. At the moment we are talking about Edwards.

No one for a second believes Cheney will run for president (assuming Bush wins this time out) So the only leaves one other option for him to become president. Are you far lefties planning something

:0

[cegerer]

Can somebody give Edwards a call and tell him to 'edit' the derogatory Kerry comments on his website ......

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:J-Hi-NYr_fMJ:www.johnedwards2004.com/page

[350HP930]

Originally posted by Moses
Read it. It's from the NYTimes:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/31/politics/campaign/31EDWA.html?ex=1089259200&en=e0113afb3eb4e4f1&ei=5070&pagewanted=print&position=

Right from your posted link . . .

Mr. Edwards handled all sorts of cases. He litigated contract and insurance disputes. He sued the American National Red Cross three times, claiming that the AIDS virus was transmitted through tainted blood products, and obtained a confidential settlement in each case. He defended a Wilmington, N.C., newspaper owned by The New York Times Company in a libel suit.

Having a daughter that suffered severe oxygen deprivation during a failed vaginal delivery I am a bit sensitive to cases where doctors drag their feet on performing a c-section.

Due to my wifes small hip size and the size of my daughters head the obstratician knew before my daughter was born it was likely to be a no go but decided give vaginal birth anyway.

When I asked why we could not opt for the c-section right off the bat he told me point blank that he would have a hard time with the HMO that we were with if we did not give natural child birth a try first.

Lets just say I was a bit livid while my daughter spent a week in the ICU while I was being told that she might have suffered permanant brain damage from the time she spent stuck half way down my wifes birth canal.

Palsy debate or not, more power to lawyers who go after doctors who make these kinds of ****ed up decisions for the sake of the bean counters. I know first hand how these situations go and I am not going to let some industry sponsored 'studies' try to dismiss the common sense about what happens when children are deprived of oxygen during the birth process. Even the article admits that around 10% of CP cases are from oxygen deprovation so who is to say that the cases edwards argued were not legitimate?

I find it a bit ironic that Moses is jumping on edwards back just weeks after posting that the quality of medical care would go down if doctors were protected from malpractice suits.

The fact that edwards has done a variety of suits but the focus is being placed on a certain type of disputed case he has won big awards on speaks volumes that the right wing spin machine is going to be getting as much mileage as it can get from this issue.

[Mulholland]

Originally posted by Yankee911
Hey Mull, you witless wonder---

If you watch the news tonight you would learn that Edwards parents were mill workers and he was 1st in his family to go to college. He defended the little people who were hurt by the big guys. He left his lucrative law practice to be a Senator. Damn--sounds like the American Dream to me.

Of course, you guys would rather have a son of privlege who failed at business and a crook as VP who made a success at stealing. I can see how your guys are better than Edwards--on the crook scale, that is.

Oh ****, I left out how Bush/Cheney raped everybody and will have to raise taxes to pay for their witless war in IRAQ.

You are no Republican...You are exactly what I implied with my first post to you...a LIAR who suffers from head-in-the-ass-syndrome.

I am still waiting for that ass kicking Spank...No, not ass-pounding (you being a Democrat from Mass and all), so if that is what you are looking forward to you will be unpleasantly surprised when you wake up.

[350HP930]

Well mull, you should be ashamed that its hard to differentiate between your style of posting and that of a teenage bull****ter.

[Bleyseng]

I am all for malpractice suits as it does hold doctors feet to the flames.
The $25million suit was for a little girl for had her guts sucked out by a defective swimming pool drain. The 25 million award was to pay for the costs of her care for the rest of her life as she had no intestines.
I have a friend who kid was brain damaged by a idiot doctor at birth. He and his wife sued and got money to cover their invalid son's care for the rest of his life. He requires 24hr care! How much does that cost for say....60 yrs?

I do like Edwards and think it was a great effin choice for VP!

Geoff