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tabs 08-27-2004 10:39 AM

Area 51 aka Groom Lake...is a secret military base apx 70 miles N of LV. It is where the USAF developes it's secret planes....The Stealt, the HB70 Black Bird and U2 were all developed and tested there. The government doesn't even acknowledge it exists. There was a legal suit brought by employees that were expsoed to hazardous materials and became sick..they couldn't even get the courts to allow them access to information as to what they were expsoed to.

It has also been rumored that Area 51 is where the government stores and does reverse engineering on Alien Space craft that they recovered from Roswell etc...


Yucca Mountain and the old NV Atomic test site are adjecent to area 51..it really is a remote area out in the middle of nowhere.

Several of my neighbors work at the Test Site or Yucca Mountain....there is a park and ride lot next to the the 95 N (close to where I live) that a shuttle bus picks up the Yucca Mountain and test Site employees...My neighbor has just gotten a job working security out at the test site....They carry automatic AR 15's, SIG 40SW'sand are proficient with the M60 Machine gun, and Grenade launchers. They are also trained in hand to hand combat...To start he's taking home about 1K aweek.

dd74 08-27-2004 10:54 AM

Okay - but all that for development of fighter jets? Boeing and other companies aren't in the middle of nowhere, and don't have such high security, and they make fighter jets, right?

What I'm getting at is the fighter jet development may indeed be true, but there has to be more to the story than that if Area 51 is so highly fortified.

SilverPoly 08-27-2004 11:12 AM

Here's some hype surrounding area 51. Great entertainment I tell ya.

In 1989 Bob Lazar claimed on a Las Vegas television station that he had worked with alien spacecraft at Papoose Lake, south of Area 51. Since then, "Area 51" has become a popular symbol for the alleged U.S. Government UFO cover-up.


http://www.etcontact.net/ufolinks/boblazarufo.htm

Most have shot this guy down but I'm sure he has his followers..

tabs 08-27-2004 11:15 AM

Area 51 is the place where the super secret cutting edge stuff is developed....the Aurora is supposedly being tested there....I think it's supposed to be able to fly at 7000 mph and be able to change directions almost instantanously....

Who heard of the Stealth Fighter before Gulf War 1?

juan ruiz 08-27-2004 11:51 AM

Ok I don't know if is true or not, but for what I have gather and I have read, and at the end I probably look like a fool.

At an early age of 6 in Puerto Rico I remember seen what must people have seen this days a little round light far away, this was in the middle of the day and many people saw it, there were around 5-6 of this things moving up and down in many directions, I remember asking my Mom at the end of the day and she just told me the news people had them on tape but no one knew what it was, True or false who knows.:confused:

Regarding the Area 51

According to my information the U.S Government have a "Pack" with the "Aliens" the deal is not to come down so people don't panic in 'Exchange" they will supply us with technology and thats were the "Stealth Fighter " comes into place, many of this New technology is been supply to Us by Them.true or False who Knows.

The little Green

Many, Many times we hear that people have been abducted all this is done in aims to do research, according to the sources, the same way we have Whites, Blacks,Jews, Hispanics, etc, they have the same different types of race with different features, some are small, some are not.

They are so advance that they have manage to create people that look like US, and they are here doing studies about us, they are very smart people indeed and they can read each others mind and read our minds, the one thing they lack is "Love" they don't understand what is "Love" or how to get it, especially the "Love of a Mother" so here they are trying to figure this out, they can come and go from earth at any time.

Many people that had been abducted report their accounts of the "Other Side" but must of the time no one believes them.
And the list goes on.
True or False who knows.
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JTO 08-27-2004 11:58 AM

yikes!

cowtown 08-27-2004 12:06 PM

You're freaking me out, Juan. I think my co-worker just "phoned home". She's always been kind of strange, but....

dd74 08-27-2004 12:08 PM

Okay - so if there's a "pact" with these aliens that we've instigated, it sounds like they have the upper hand on us. Does that mean, if any of this is true, they could realistically come down and take over the world? Reading Juan's account as a simple baseline - again if it is all true - it sounds like we're alien food.

I mean, honestly, trading human replication for fighter planes? If at all, we certainly don't know how to strike a deal with extraterrestrials. If at all, they're probably waiting for us to blow each other up with the pandora's box they've given. After that, they'll move on in...

JTO 08-27-2004 12:41 PM

I'M LOADING ALL OF MY CLIPS TONIGHT!!

tabs 08-27-2004 01:29 PM

Yeah yeah yeah....

The Aliens are abducting people to creat a hybrid race of half human half aliens? For what purpose???? Thats what the popular theory is anyway?

Some theorys involve a pact between them and us.

A retired colonel in the USAF, who was a former NSA adviser to Eisenhower, chief of foreign technology for the USAF and later a advisor to Senator Strom Thurmand wrote a book called "The Day after Roswell" In the book he claims we are at virtual war with the aliens...that the hugh military buildup between the US and USSR was to prevent the Aliens from taking over anyone part of the planet. That Star Wars is to be used against them. That he saw the bodies of Aliens back in 1948 , theat we are doing reverse engineering....we are giving companies the UFO technology and they can develope it and make a profit after the miltary gets the use opf the tech. So far kevlar, fiber optics, micro chips, stealth and and....all have come from alien tech...he also said that they are able to cover great distances by using time travel . That we have shot down UFO's before notably in Germany....by fixing a radar beam on them they lose control and become vunerable to electrical storms as at Rosewell or anti aircraft missles as in Germany. Their form of propulsion is electro magnetic...I didn't buy the book but read it at Borders.... like I said I suspend belief...and say maybe?

dd74 08-27-2004 02:12 PM

Ted: that's interesting what the retired colonel says. My feeling is this:

1) Aliens giving us technology. Didn't we give the American Indian gunpowder? Didn't they slaughter their own people with said gunpowder? Uh huh.

1a) So they've given us technology, though it must be technology that is far outdated if these aliens are also time traveling. It's like us giving another race pencils and paper when we use computers.

2) Aliens cloning humans is very purposeful; and done so without love. Because love can translate into many other emotions that go against what aliens may want with humans on Earth - vis-a-vis a worker drone society; or one which cannot think or feel for itself. "Love" goes against their ability to maintain control. No, it's not that the aliens don't understand "love," they want no part of it.

3) Like I said earlier, if all we traded for them not to invade Earth is hardware to stand up against Russian ideology and Iraqi insurgents, we definitely don't know who the enemy is - or from where, far away, they've come...

red ufo 08-27-2004 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by tabs
Yeah yeah yeah....

The Aliens are abducting people to creat a hybrid race of half human half aliens? For what purpose???? Thats what the popular theory is anyway?

Some theorys involve a pact between them and us.

A retired colonel in the USAF, who was a former NSA adviser to Eisenhower, chief of foreign technology for the USAF and later a advisor to Senator Strom Thurmand wrote a book called "The Day after Roswell" In the book he claims we are at virtual war with the aliens...that the hugh military buildup between the US and USSR was to prevent the Aliens from taking over anyone part of the planet. That Star Wars is to be used against them. That he saw the bodies of Aliens back in 1948 , theat we are doing reverse engineering....we are giving companies the UFO technology and they can develope it and make a profit after the miltary gets the use opf the tech. So far kevlar, fiber optics, micro chips, stealth and and....all have come from alien tech...he also said that they are able to cover great distances by using time travel . That we have shot down UFO's before notably in Germany....by fixing a radar beam on them they lose control and become vunerable to electrical storms as at Rosewell or anti aircraft missles as in Germany. Their form of propulsion is electro magnetic...I didn't buy the book but read it at Borders.... like I said I suspend belief...and say maybe?

I have that book, interesting read. Not sure how credible it is. The UFO community has written Corso off. Specially the Stan Friedman crowd.

JTO 08-27-2004 02:31 PM

CLIPS! CLIPS! LOAD YOUR FREAKIN' CLIPS!!

dd74 08-27-2004 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JTO
CLIPS! CLIPS! LOAD YOUR FREAKIN' CLIPS!!
That ain't gonna' stop 'em. Remember that Mork and Mindy episode where Mork stops a bazooka round fired directly at his chest?

Nanoo-nanoo! Make my day!

JTO 08-27-2004 04:35 PM

Well David, maybe not, but it will feel better to go down in a blaze of glory. Maybe one of the PP computer geeks could come up with a computer virus that would infect their mother ship and...

Troy

juan ruiz 08-27-2004 04:48 PM

Very Good and Interesting points.

To me the"Needed Love" makes sense, don't we all need love.

According to some sources "All' of this different races of 'Aliens" are watching us, now stop for a second.Don't we seat at home and watch T.V. , Mtv, Discovery etc, they seat at space and watch us "The Rest of the World" as we enjoy our television they enjoy 'Our Show" One of the must interesting thing for them besides the 'Love" is the fact that we the 'Humanoids" are not only killing the planet, pollution, forest, etc, etc, the fact that we as a race are in a very good path to self destruct our planet, for them this behaver is hard to understand as they are a very a peaceful race.

Think of the technology they are giving us when they are using "Magnetic Field" to surpass the sound barrier, and we the "Humanoids" can even get a good cellular phone to work properly.

Rumor has it that some "Humanoids" that have been abducted have ask them to stay and try to teach them about of Humanoid way of living.

why do they studied us ? same reason we study animals to learn about different types of things, they are so advance that they are pass the animal testing stage, they are dealing with the best possible scenario us the humans.

All do I am not sure if you guys have ever hear of the "Chupacabras" which translate to "Goat Sucking Animal" this creature sucks the blood of a horse, cow or birds with a very small insertion leaving no traces, no cutting, nothing, like they suck the blood thru a straw, rumor has it that is of the "Alien Races' taking the blood for experiments.

According to some reports they will not harm us rather they will watch us how we end the world our by our shelfs

dd74 08-27-2004 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juan ruiz
...I am not sure if you guys have ever hear of the "Chupacabras" which translate to "Goat Sucking Animal" this creature sucks the blood of a horse, cow or birds with a very small insertion leaving no traces, no cutting, nothing, like they suck the blood thru a straw, rumor has it that is of the "Alien Races' taking the blood for experiments.

According to some reports they will not harm us rather they will watch us how we end the world our by our shelfs

I thought a "chupacbra," at least in Llano forklore, is a werewolf.

As for "rather not harm us...but study us" (sic), I think this: they are too far advanced to even conceptualize the brutality of our own species. They have taken enviromental and species preservation to a level we will never realize - so why study us?

If the aliens are decent beings - and know what it takes to preserve their own selves, they should introduce themselves to us to tell us what we should do to persevere. But persevere might very well involve "love," and if the aliens don't understand love, we're off on our own, really.

juan ruiz 08-27-2004 05:11 PM

The Chupa Cabra" Chupa = Sucking, Cabra= Goat, the storie started when this animal was only attacking "Goats" and thats when the name was born after that he move to other animals but the name remaind.

I think that us the Humanoids could be in shock if they ever landed, Can you imagine all the stories about God? Now we be in troubble big time.

This days we have diesel engines WITHOUT, camshafts, Push rods,Rocker arms, and many other crucial components, is all electronics, times are changing and are changing fast .

Will any of us be here to witness this ? Time will tell.

David 08-27-2004 05:43 PM

If I remember correctly, the Belgian air force held a press conference several years ago to descibe what a couple of their fighter pilots had just witnessed. It was a UFO that just left them like they were sitting still.

tabs 08-28-2004 07:14 AM

Paul Corsos book says we are getting the tech from crashed UFO's they are not giving us anything...


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