So, the largest terrorist strike hits our cities . . .you admit this was not due to Bush .. . .and yet you claim Bush is the root cause of terrorism. Right-o, If Kerry is in place all the terrorist will fold under Kerrys strong "hey, don't do that.":rolleyes:

Kerry has the LONGEST record of ignoring threats. He in fact embraces enemies. (called: CHUMP, traitor, . .)

Thanks for playing.

SmileWavy

You asked. I told you. Sorry you don't like the answer. If you don't want to hear the answer, then don't ask.

And if you're going to say stuff like he "ignore threats" perhaps you should elaborate.

Wish I had a challenge to play with :(

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This is a test............

That was a clever attempt to mislead, wasn't it sebring....

Thanks for clarifying my statement to island which I'm sure was obvious to most.

ahhh. . .say wha?

Let's review:

Q: . ..why anyone should vote FOR Kerry?

A: That's easy. For one, root causes of terrorism

Okay, WTF does that non-sentence "answer" mean?

(to me it sure looks like typical bush-basher knee-jerk canned response of (when asked about Kerry) blame Bush for his stirring the pot in Iraq)

so, looking for clarification...

Q: yeah? . ... did Bush cause 9/11?

A: NO! OMG. But what he's doing now.......

So, Sebring, please tell me what CC meant, when asked why anyone should vote FOR Kerry, with that . . . aaah. . . response of "easy. For one, root causes of terrorism" ?

Ya know, if you are going to suggest that I am delusional, you could at least help me figure out what's going on here. :)

Since you think I got it wrong. . .

Does it mean that Kerry is the root cause of terrorism? (and we need more)

Does it mean that Kerry has roots in terrorism? (and thus he'll better understand )

Does it mean that Sebring is hard-up for some cool_chick attention? (and believes adding his own words to reinforce CC's simple belief system will get him in good)

:cool:

LOL, Glenn! Speaking from a non-partisan viewpoint, that's what I thought it meant. :D

Island, I assumed you would read all that I wrote...(that's what I get for ASSuming)

full quote:

<b>That's easy.

For one, root causes of terrorism

Kerry promises to work on getting all the recommendations of the 9/11 commission put into practice. Bush all but ignores these.</b>

I guess I also ASSumed you've actually read up on the evidence....my bad.

Why don't you read the 9/11 report as well as sebring's correct conclusion of my statement, then it will make sense to you.

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This is a test............

Like most bush lovers he doesn't bother letting the facts get in the way of his opinion.

You are going to have to at least TRY to explain yourself. ...How is your response "For one, root causes of terrorism" an answer to my question;

"So, how about YOU tell us why anyone should vote FOR Kerry?

Not "against Bush" . . . but FOR Kerry. ?

You haven't answered, you've obfuscated. Like some kind of . . .oh I dunno . .. ..maybe like a TROLL!

For one, ADDRESSING the root causes of terrorism

Kerry promises to work on getting all the recommendations of the 9/11 commission put into practice. Bush all but ignores these.

The recommendations include ADDRESSING the root causes of terrorism as well as force, etc.

And now you're calling me a troll? How old are you?

LIke Clinton before him Bush hopes that the economy grows and tax revenues increase thus reducing the deficeit.....But the reality of the matter is with the circumstances Bushy was and is faced with he REALLY had no choich but to run those deficeits.

But what about FY2005? Why STILL?

Cool Chick is probably a 50 year old 300 lb Democratic Pol needing a shower and shave.....

When your asked a question you answer with a question...and it's simple about Y2005 the economy while out of recession is still not robust....to be making up the deficeits yet...

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This is a test............

You do realize this type of fiscal politics is very damaging in the way of the value of the dollar/inflation, etc...right?

And you do realize the claim that 80% of the tax relief given to the rich goes to job-creating small businesses is not true, right?

At the risk of you answering with yet another statement of partial truth (move-on.org talking point) or worse yet, another question....no I do not come to the same conclusion.....please explain it to me.

(1) The U.S. dollar has fallen in value more than 40% during the past two years relative to the Eurodollar. The decline continues and international investors who hold $4.6 trillion in U.S. treasury bills, corporate bonds and stocks are starting to panic. The massive U.S. Federal deficit, the equally massive U.S. trade deficit, and attempts by the government to stem the flow of manufacturing jobs to low cost economies all conspire toward even lower value for the U.S. dollar.

(2) http://www.factcheck.org/article118.html

I went on moveon.org once when republicans were talking about that site. Sorry, not a site i visit. Why do you ask, do you go to that site?

Factcheck.org is equally bad. Very little balance or truth there either.

You seem pretty confused to me. You complain about the value of the dollar against the Euro in the very same breath that you complain about losing jobs overseas. A weaker dollar actually helps retain jobs and balance trade by making US goods more competitive overseas and is often intentional....Also, although the deficit is quite large due to two wars, a recession, and a major terrorist attack in the last four years...it is not too terribly bad historically with respect to GDP (the comparison that most educated people use)

Isn't that the site that cheney meant to plug during the debates?

I believe that Cheney was saying: Hey, even that subversive leftist propaganda site backs-up my point.

Here is the quote:

CHENEY: Well, the reason they keep mentioning Halliburton is because they're trying to throw up a smokescreen. They know the charges are false. They know that if you go, for example, to factcheck.com (sic), an independent Web site sponsored by the University of Pennsylvania, you can get the specific details with respect to Halliburton.

It's an effort that they've made repeatedly to try to confuse the voters and to raise questions, but there's no substance to the charges.

Kind of like if I said, please refer to 350HP930's Eram calculations, they show zanack is FOS. (doesn't mean you are right about anything else. :cool: )

Eram!!
 

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Seems pretty risky to send the nation to a "subversive leftist propaganda site" huh?

LMAO.

Again, please back up these allegations with proof that factcheck.org is such a thing.

God you guys...anything that tells the truth....

shaking my head.

As I have said before, the neo-cons, right wingers and other loons that like bush will do anything to prevent the facts from getting in the way of their opinions.

Pretty misleading to post a graph of all US debt (personal, consumer, business, government, etc) in place of federal debt. Typical liberal tactic to obfuscate tha truth....Was it intentional? or did they fool you too?

What's weird to me is that if someone (or in this case, a neutral website) has even one fact that reflects negatively to Bush, it's labeled things such as "subversive left-wing". It's so strange.

Plus, I noticed that the poster didn't even take the time to discuss why the content on factcheck.org was false. Why is that?

And re: Typical liberal tactic to obfuscate tha truth

First of all that's a republican tactic. Secondly, it's POINTED OUT RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAPH. It plays a part.


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Ok you know what, I give up....go ahead, endorse high deficit...it's awesome, a beautiful thing....will not affect anything...we can go on like this forever!

Yea...party's on me. The deficit means nothing! Wanna take a cruise with me? Everyone...come along! We'll just add it to the deficit since it doesn't matter.

Hmmm, I wonder...how many here are making minimum payments on their credit card balances?

Hey, if its good enough for the government why shouldn't the average american do the same?

The problem is I don't think the government is even making minimum payments on some of this debt.....hence part of the problem of stripping other programs (e.g., social security).

A good point is raised....how long can one go with paying just the minimum payment...then continuing to borrow, then paying the minimum payment...eventually I would think one can't even afford the minimum payment anymore......

Of course the graph has the correct labels...but you used the information to justify something toatlly different....either you do not understand the difference and made a mistake (I can accept that since most of your posts indicate a basic misunderstanding of politics or economics)....or it was dishonest.

You taking a cruise and inviting does nothing to change the federal deficit...in fact, if anything, it would actually reduce it.

Reduce it?

C'mon america! Let's do our part to reduce this deficit!

whatever. Did Rush tell you that?

A lot of it is true....some isn't. The problem is...it is a liberal site...run by a liberal university...with liberal directors. See for yourself. The problem is not so much their lack of accuracy...but what they choose to "factcheck." Anything a Conservative says is "factchecked" and even if basically true, minor discrepancies are cited and worded in a way that make it appear that there is some sort of conspiracy

Most liberal statements are given a pass...and if looked at.....only on the surface and in a positive light.

No just simple economics that one would learn in college.....

I don't listen to Rush....I have a job. Apparently you do. what is his take on the deficit.

Can you think of examples that liberal statements aren't being factchecked and are given a pass?

Can you give examples of, if looked at, is on the surface and in a positive light?

I'm being genuine as I don't see it that way and am curious about this.

Think Gun Control. Then ask some questions.

rjp

You don't have radio at work? Wow, they let me listen to a radio at work if I want, and they give me a computer too! And a room with a door! Guess I'm in the big time now!

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left wing bla bla bla liberal bla bla bla spitting on soldiers bla bla I'm a dumb ass bla bla bla
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Ok humor us ignorant masses. Elaborate.