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island911 10-20-2004 04:26 PM

Money doesn't make Class
 
In an interview published Wednesday in USA Today, the newspaper asked Tereeeezzza HEINZ-kerry if she would be different from Laura Bush as a first lady.

"Well, you know, I don't know Laura Bush. But she seems to be calm, and she has a sparkle in her eye, which is good . .. But I don't know that she's ever had a real job — I mean, since she's been grown up."


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After her handlers reeled her back, she starts back-peddaling: link

"I had forgotten that Mrs. Bush had worked as a school teacher and librarian, and there couldn't be a more important job than teaching our children."

Bwahahaah .. .

. . .but best part; Teresa's claim in her apology to have "been both a full time mom and full time in workforce"(sic).

Thing is, Tereeeezzzza's only time in the workforce was a brief gig at Kerry Klub-Hause (United Nations) as a translator. (where she snagged her wealthy husband.)
Since then she's shown the world how driven a woman with money can be . . .Driven shopping, that is.

Tell us moore about Laura Bush, you classless, power-grubbing wench.

EDIT: add link

on-ramp 10-20-2004 04:30 PM

Didn't Teresa invent Ketchup?

island911 10-20-2004 04:32 PM

:D LOL, on-ramp. Yeah, every election needs it's Al Gore. ;)

RallyJon 10-20-2004 04:41 PM

Have to make a distinction there--class has nothing to do with coming up with a carefully worded and inoffensive comment when reporters shove microphones in your face. Teresa Heinz is so far above everyone else in this (politics--how tawdry and quaint) that she refreshingly says exactly what she's thinking.

Personally, I wish we had a little less PC canned responses and little more "shove it you *********" from our leaders. It's a shame that coverage of the personalities has been reduced to waiting for the gaffe so we can all cluck about it.

John Kerry should borrow some of Teresa's balls.

SLO-BOB 10-20-2004 04:44 PM

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7...selhoffrj8.gif

This is a test............

red-beard 10-20-2004 04:45 PM

Teresa didn't grow up wealthy, she married it.

island911 10-20-2004 04:48 PM

Oh c'mon, Rally, that was a (poorly) calculated slam on Laura Bush.

If you're going to say she has balls, then why the tail-betwen-legs retraction? She could of just said, "hey, like I said, 'I didn't know her story'. . .so shove-it."

speeder 10-20-2004 05:08 PM

You're getting a little desperate, there.

I admire Laura Bush, she is a class act and she was not offended by TKH's remarks. And they clearly despise one another: :rolleyes:

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fintstone 10-20-2004 09:03 PM

I am sure that Laura is offended by just about everything T.H. Kerry says...but has too much class to lower herself to THK's level.

Money might actually make a little class...if you had to earn it. Neither T Heinz Kerry or John Kerry have had the experience.

cool_chick 10-21-2004 03:23 AM

Oh but Rally..we do have class acts in our so-called "leaders." Hell, Cheney loves to tell people off wish special words such as f%ck on the senate floor.

I would think that some republicans here would be proud of the class demonstrated by ol Vice President Cheney.

:))

VINMAN 10-21-2004 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cool_chick
Oh but Rally..we do have class acts in our so-called "leaders." Hell, Cheney loves to tell people off wish special words such as f%ck on the senate floor.

I would think that some republicans here would be proud of the class demonstrated by ol Vice President Cheney.

:))

Yep , you're right. I 'm proud that Cheney had the balls to speak his mind, and not worry about being so P.C.
But I guess the old liberal double standard applies here.
If a Dem or Liberal had said that , it would have been called "free speech". But since a Conservative said it , its offensive.
Right??

RallyJon 10-21-2004 04:00 AM

Quote:

then why the tail-betwen-legs retraction?
The retraction came from the campaign, I'm sure.

Sorry--I'm generally willing to forgive people who make a gut call based on the information they have available to them at the time that later turns out to be bad.

And Pat Leahy does need to f--- off more than most. :p

928ram 10-21-2004 04:02 AM

Idiots, scumbags, and let the children run around naked...yeah there's a certain lack of class there for sure.

cool_chick 10-21-2004 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VINMAN
Yep , you're right. I 'm proud that Cheney had the balls to speak his mind, and not worry about being so P.C.
But I guess the old liberal double standard applies here.
If a Dem or Liberal had said that , it would have been called "free speech". But since a Conservative said it , its offensive.
Right??

No...actually the double-standard applies to the republicans. Since it's Theresa Heinz-Kerry, a "shove it" comments displays "no class." But since Cheney said it, he "has the balls to speak his mind."

Talk about double-standard.

Me, doesn't matter either way...neither comments "offend" me. The truth is that Heinz-Kerry also "has the balls to speak her mind." Just pointing out the hypocricy on the right.

Mule 10-21-2004 04:45 AM

This woman is clearly insane. Apparently her condition is worsening because her medication level appears to need continual increase to keep her insanity from showing. Every time the DNC thinks she is sufficiently anesthetized she spouts off with some new crazy statement causing them to up the dosage. The wors is that after the election she is going to dump Kerry & marry Rush Limbaugh.

red-beard 10-21-2004 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cool_chick
No...actually the double-standard applies to the republicans. Since it's Theresa Heinz-Kerry, a "shove it" comments displays "no class." But since Cheney said it, he "has the balls to speak his mind."

Talk about double-standard.

Me, doesn't matter either way...neither comments "offend" me. The truth is that Heinz-Kerry also "has the balls to speak her mind." Just pointing out the hypocricy on the right.

The difference - one was a Public remark, in front of reporters and cameras. The other was a private remark. So, one is of Public record, and the other heresay.

kach22i 10-21-2004 06:58 AM

Re: Money doesn't make Class
 
Quote:

Originally posted by island911
Tereeeezzza HEINZ-kerry. .. But I don't know that she's ever had a real job — I mean, since she's been grown up."

Laura did not need a job, she ran her own business selling drugs.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0908-23.htm
First Lady, both sold and smoked marijuana during her days at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas.

MichiganMat 10-21-2004 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RallyJon
HPersonally, I wish we had a little less PC canned responses and little more "shove it you *********" from our leaders. It's a shame that coverage of the personalities has been reduced to waiting for the gaffe so we can all cluck about it.

John Kerry should borrow some of Teresa's balls.

I have to disagree.
Out of control emotional discourse is not a leadership quality. I expect my leaders to carry themselves better than to resort to petty insults. Cheneys
"f-off" was uncalled for and undignified. Id feel the same way if it were a Dem (Zell's in that list for sure).

I do agree that the talking-point canned BS we get from our leaders is getting out of hand though. Its been so refreshing to have Jon Stewart in the spotlight lately, I think he does an excellent job of working through all the muck. If only the rest of the media would follow suit...

turbo6bar 10-21-2004 08:16 AM

Re: Re: Money doesn't make Class
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kach22i
Laura did not need a job, she ran her own business selling drugs.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0908-23.htm
First Lady, both sold and smoked marijuana during her days at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas.

From the link above:
"Perhaps the book's most improbable claim is that Laura Bush, now the model of primness and propriety as First Lady, both sold and smoked marijuana during her days at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas."

ubiquity0 10-21-2004 08:19 AM

Comments on the senate floor are not considered “public record”?

CarreraS2 10-21-2004 08:35 AM

She is insane. The Kerry campaign knows it, too. Why do you think they locked her in the basement after that horrid speech she gave at the Democratic convention?

That was a good strategic move.

Being a teacher or a librarian is not a real job. Spending and giving away the money that your now-deal Republican husband earned, now, THAT's real hard work.

CarreraS2 10-21-2004 08:38 AM

Re: Re: Money doesn't make Class
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kach22i
Laura did not need a job, she ran her own business selling drugs.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0908-23.htm
First Lady, both sold and smoked marijuana during her days at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas.

That's pretty sleezy of you to totally mischaracterize what the link actually says.

Anything to try to make a point?

kach22i 10-21-2004 08:56 AM

Re: Re: Re: Money doesn't make Class
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SoCal911SC
That's pretty sleezy of you to totally mischaracterize what the link actually says.

Anything to try to make a point?

You want that I should copy the entire article and break copyright?:rolleyes:

It's not like I posted a link to something like................ www.laurabushfilthychristiancrackwhore.com

MichiganMat 10-21-2004 09:05 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Money doesn't make Class
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kach22i

It's not like I posted a link to something like................ www.laurabushfilthychristiancrackwhore.com

Damn, the link doesnt work.

But seriously, Laura is a cyborg. Only a robot could create a plastic smile like hers.

CarreraS2 10-21-2004 09:48 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Money doesn't make Class
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kach22i
You want that I should copy the entire article and break copyright?:rolleyes:

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No, you don't have to copy it. Just don't mischaracterize what it says. I read your link, and it doesn't say what you said it says. Not even close.

You wrote: "

Laura did not need a job, she ran her own business selling drugs.

First Lady, both sold and smoked marijuana during her days at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas."

Then cited: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0908-23.htm as your source.

Wow, that's a pretty big claim, I thought. I'll check out the source that was cited!

The source doesn't say what you said. It in fact says, "Perhaps the book's most improbable claim is that Laura Bush, now the model of primness and propriety as First Lady, both sold and smoked marijuana during her days at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas."

Do you see the difference? (Probably not).

(P.S. I hear Dan Rather is looking for an intern . . . I think you've got what it takes!)

speeder 10-21-2004 10:17 AM

Laura Bush is in the news today defending THK and re-asserting that she is not offended, but of course our sage fintstone knows better.

Assclown. :cool:

kach22i 10-21-2004 10:26 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Money doesn't make Class
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SoCal911SC
Wow, that's a pretty big claim, I thought. I'll check out the source that was cited!
You fell for my master plan to get you to read a Common Dreams article. Now the filaments of liberalism have been planted like a seed in your cornea and they shall percolate into the cranium, and into your spine like herpes lying dormant until an outbreak is called for.

Evil laugh...............................:D

dd74 10-21-2004 10:39 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Money doesn't make Class
 
Forget being a Dan Rather intern, Kach22i showed managing editor tactics on his article. Hook 'em with the juciest part, and then get them in the thick of the article. Paley would be proud...well, not really.

Regardless, "improbable claim" still does not refute that Laura Bush selling and using drugs is not true. It tells me that the claim that she sold and used drugs is simply not verified.

Carry on, Kach...or should it be "Kerry on..."? SmileWavy

speeder 10-21-2004 10:57 AM

If Laura Bush sold some weed in college, I like her all the more. :cool:

CarreraS2 10-21-2004 11:14 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Money doesn't make Class
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kach22i
You fell for my master plan to get you to read a Common Dreams article. Now the filaments of liberalism have been planted like a seed in your cornea and they shall percolate into the cranium, and into your spine like herpes lying dormant until an outbreak is called for.

Evil laugh...............................:D

Too late . . . I've already been accused, more than once, on this site of being a flaming liberal!

kach22i 10-21-2004 12:24 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Money doesn't make Class
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SoCal911SC
Too late . . . I've already been accused, more than once, on this site of being a flaming liberal!
Anyone standing just to the left of Rush Limpballs or Ann Coulter is a Commie Pink-O Liberal.:D

ErVikingo 10-21-2004 12:57 PM

I wouldn't standing on either side of Ann Coulter (she's hot :D )

and Michigan Mat; you want plastic; sorry dude look at Edwards....

fintstone 10-21-2004 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by speeder
Laura Bush is in the news today defending THK and re-asserting that she is not offended, but of course our sage fintstone knows better.

Assclown. :cool:

She is just showing you democrats how to have a bit of class....but of course you still don't get it.

If the tables had been turned, someone as classless as THK would be screaming obscenities....or calling people assclowns.

fintstone 10-21-2004 08:00 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Money doesn't make Class
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dd74

Regardless, "improbable claim" still does not refute that Laura Bush selling and using drugs is not true. It tells me that the claim that she sold and used drugs is simply not verified.

Carry on, Kach...or should it be "Kerry on..."? SmileWavy

Yes much like the "improbable claim" that Kerry and Edwards are sleeping together (both are prettier than their wives and seem to hug each other a lot.)...But the claim is simply not verified.

SLO-BOB 10-22-2004 03:27 AM

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This is a test............

tabs 10-22-2004 03:43 AM

Kan any of U boyz imagine that FRUMPY Heinz Broad being 1st Lady...Thats enough reason right there not to vote for Kerry.

When I first saw the title of this Thread, I thought we were gona be talking about culture and class...you know wealth and taste kind of stuff and not just another political rant pitting the the Conservatives aginst the Liberal Leftos.... I'm so disapointed....

cool_chick 10-22-2004 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tabs
Kan any of U boyz imagine that FRUMPY Heinz Broad being 1st Lady...Thats enough reason right there not to vote for Kerry.

If that's all that's important when picking a leader for our country...I can't help but wonder about your priorities.

wow.

tabs 10-22-2004 03:58 AM

No I have other reasons for disliking the Big Flip Flopper Hisself....

cool_chick 10-22-2004 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tabs
No I have other reasons for disliking the Big Flip Flopper Hisself....
I sure wish that Bush would be more of a "flip flopper" as you call it. He continually makes mistakes, but won't dare "waver" to do what's necessary to fix them.

So tell me, is it better to be "strong" and wrong?

tabs 10-22-2004 04:10 AM

BTW.....Cool Chicky.... the statement "enugh reason" implies that there is more than one reason not tot vote for the Flip Flopper....


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