Money doesn't make Class

[350HP930]

Originally posted by fintstone
Factcheck.org is equally bad. Very little balance or truth there either.

Isn't that the site that cheney meant to plug during the debates?

[island911]

Originally posted by 350HP930
Isn't that the site that cheney meant to plug during the debates?

I believe that Cheney was saying: Hey, even that subversive leftist propaganda site backs-up my point.

Here is the quote:

CHENEY: Well, the reason they keep mentioning Halliburton is because they're trying to throw up a smokescreen. They know the charges are false. They know that if you go, for example, to factcheck.com (sic), an independent Web site sponsored by the University of Pennsylvania, you can get the specific details with respect to Halliburton.

It's an effort that they've made repeatedly to try to confuse the voters and to raise questions, but there's no substance to the charges.

Kind of like if I said, please refer to 350HP930's Eram calculations, they show zanack is FOS. (doesn't mean you are right about anything else. )

[speeder]

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by fintstone
...it is not too terribly bad historically with respect to GDP (the comparison that most educated people use)

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by island911
I believe that Cheney was saying: Hey, even that subversive leftist propaganda site backs-up my point.

Seems pretty risky to send the nation to a "subversive leftist propaganda site" huh?

LMAO.

Again, please back up these allegations with proof that factcheck.org is such a thing.

God you guys...anything that tells the truth....

shaking my head.

[350HP930]

As I have said before, the neo-cons, right wingers and other loons that like bush will do anything to prevent the facts from getting in the way of their opinions.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by cool_chick

Pretty misleading to post a graph of all US debt (personal, consumer, business, government, etc) in place of federal debt. Typical liberal tactic to obfuscate tha truth....Was it intentional? or did they fool you too?

[cool_chick]

What's weird to me is that if someone (or in this case, a neutral website) has even one fact that reflects negatively to Bush, it's labeled things such as "subversive left-wing". It's so strange.

Plus, I noticed that the poster didn't even take the time to discuss why the content on factcheck.org was false. Why is that?

And re: Typical liberal tactic to obfuscate tha truth

First of all that's a republican tactic. Secondly, it's POINTED OUT RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAPH. It plays a part.


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Ok you know what, I give up....go ahead, endorse high deficit...it's awesome, a beautiful thing....will not affect anything...we can go on like this forever!

Yea...party's on me. The deficit means nothing! Wanna take a cruise with me? Everyone...come along! We'll just add it to the deficit since it doesn't matter.

[pwd72s]

Hmmm, I wonder...how many here are making minimum payments on their credit card balances?

[350HP930]

Originally posted by pwd72s
Hmmm, I wonder...how many here are making minimum payments on their credit card balances?

Hey, if its good enough for the government why shouldn't the average american do the same?

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by 350HP930
Hey, if its good enough for the government why shouldn't the average american do the same?

The problem is I don't think the government is even making minimum payments on some of this debt.....hence part of the problem of stripping other programs (e.g., social security).

A good point is raised....how long can one go with paying just the minimum payment...then continuing to borrow, then paying the minimum payment...eventually I would think one can't even afford the minimum payment anymore......

[fintstone]

Originally posted by cool_chick

......And re: Typical liberal tactic to obfuscate tha truth

First of all that's a republican tactic. Secondly, it's POINTED OUT RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAPH. It plays a part.


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Ok you know what, I give up....go ahead, endorse high deficit...it's awesome, a beautiful thing....will not affect anything...we can go on like this forever!

Yea...party's on me. The deficit means nothing! Wanna take a cruise with me? Everyone...come along! We'll just add it to the deficit since it doesn't matter.

Of course the graph has the correct labels...but you used the information to justify something toatlly different....either you do not understand the difference and made a mistake (I can accept that since most of your posts indicate a basic misunderstanding of politics or economics)....or it was dishonest.

You taking a cruise and inviting does nothing to change the federal deficit...in fact, if anything, it would actually reduce it.

[cool_chick]

Reduce it?

C'mon america! Let's do our part to reduce this deficit!

whatever. Did Rush tell you that?

[fintstone]

Originally posted by cool_chick
....Plus, I noticed that the poster didn't even take the time to discuss why the content on factcheck.org was false. Why is that?...

A lot of it is true....some isn't. The problem is...it is a liberal site...run by a liberal university...with liberal directors. See for yourself. The problem is not so much their lack of accuracy...but what they choose to "factcheck." Anything a Conservative says is "factchecked" and even if basically true, minor discrepancies are cited and worded in a way that make it appear that there is some sort of conspiracy

Most liberal statements are given a pass...and if looked at.....only on the surface and in a positive light.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by cool_chick
Reduce it?

C'mon america! Let's do our part to reduce this deficit!

whatever. Did Rush tell you that?

No just simple economics that one would learn in college.....

I don't listen to Rush....I have a job. Apparently you do. what is his take on the deficit.

[cool_chick]

Can you think of examples that liberal statements aren't being factchecked and are given a pass?

Can you give examples of, if looked at, is on the surface and in a positive light?

I'm being genuine as I don't see it that way and am curious about this.

[RANDY P]

Originally posted by cool_chick
Can you think of examples that liberal statements aren't being factchecked and are given a pass?

Can you give examples of, if looked at, is on the surface and in a positive light?

I'm being genuine as I don't see it that way and am curious about this.

Think Gun Control. Then ask some questions.

rjp

[cool_chick]

You don't have radio at work? Wow, they let me listen to a radio at work if I want, and they give me a computer too! And a room with a door! Guess I'm in the big time now!

[350HP930]

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left wing bla bla bla liberal bla bla bla spitting on soldiers bla bla I'm a dumb ass bla bla bla
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[cool_chick]

Originally posted by fintstone
No just simple economics that one would learn in college.....

Ok humor us ignorant masses. Elaborate.