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Jason Porter 11-16-2004 11:08 AM

We are supposed to be killing. And we have a budget crisis. I think it's cheaper to replace a bullet, than it is to feed this idiot and nurse him back to health. Basically, in war, if you don't want to die, surrender!!!

nostatic 11-16-2004 11:11 AM

You guys haven't seen some of the fish I've seen. There was this carp that had a bazooka. Nearly took out my car. And this largemouth bass...he was a killer. I heard he had a tank or something.

Anyone who can't see the difference between an act (wrong or right) during wartime and a senseless act of vicousness perpetrated in a clearly innocent animal during peace (if you can call LB peaceful)...we'll, let's just say you might want to up your dosage.

Unless of course the shark at the LB aquarium was armed. And in fact, I'll bet that was the case. I heard about this tiger shark that used to carry a Mac10. He was a bad mofo. So maybe those kids were just doing us a huge service trying to rid LB of terrorist fish. They're heros, dammit!

dd74 11-16-2004 11:13 AM

Okay, David. I follow you. But who is the unarmed fish? Not the guy face-down in the mosque. Particularly after the marine the day before, had been injured by a booby-trapped body that injured six other marines and killed one.

Granted, in any other circumstance, the soldier would be wrong. But I take into account what he's been through/what he's seen.

I believe the ones who are most at fault are these senior colonels and generals who make it sound like Fallujah is a done deal when it obviously is not. Hearing "...we've broken the enemy," etc., can subconsciously conjure up an idea of victory, and make it more difficult to understand why an armed soldier would shoot an unarmed injured enemy combatant.

Even the media didn't suggest the soldier was wrong, and we all know how much they hate this war. The fact is Fallujah is different from Iraq in general. It's big and nasty. Anyone who thinks the marines should exercise diplomacy should go there and try it themselves.

rcecale 11-16-2004 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by dmoolenaar
What a f**king lame example.
We're you talking about the "shark story" or about Purry, himself? ;)

Randy

lendaddy 11-16-2004 11:15 AM

Your stories of gun toting fish are a little far fetched my man, I don't by that for one second. I do however know of a clownfish that carries a switchblade, he's pretty good with throwing stars as well. At least I think it's a he, hmm never asked. Maybe that's why he/she is so pissed.

Mule 11-16-2004 11:16 AM

Why can't you clowns get it. THEY yes THEY have chosen a tactic of using live & dead humans as bomb delivery systems. Therefore our soldiers are forced to shoot first & ask questions later. Let you brother get blown up & see if you feel differently.

island911 11-16-2004 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Jason at Pelican Parts
. . . Basically, in war, if you don't want to die, surrender!!!
Exactly!

AFAIK, this group had surrendered a day or two before . . . only to go back to shooting at our guys, from a place of worship, once again. That is, the guy shot was FAKING surrender again. ...playing dead this time. No doubt hoping he could wait for our guys to turn and leave, before he started shotting again.

Purry, you get speeders special assclownfish award.

dd74 11-16-2004 11:19 AM

Yes, we need to get a "fin" up on the immediate situation there.

Jason Porter 11-16-2004 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by island911
Exactly!

AFAIK, this group had surrendered a day or two before . . . only to go back to shooting at our guys, from a place of worship, once again. That is, the guy shot was FAKING surrender again. ...playing dead this time. No doubt hoping he could wait for our guys to turn and leave, before he started shotting again.

Purry, you get speeders special assclownfish award.

As far as I'm concerned, if a guy surrenders, and then starts shooting again, he just gave up his right to a surrender, legitimate or otherwise.

Shoot him in his head and move on to the next scumbag...

EdT82SC 11-16-2004 11:30 AM

I say good riddance. My only question is how come he let the other wounded terrorists live?

widebody911 11-16-2004 11:31 AM

Here's the vid:

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200411/r35639_88937.asx

nostatic 11-16-2004 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Your stories of gun toting fish are a little far fetched my man, I don't by that for one second. I do however know of a clownfish that carries a switchblade, he's pretty good with throwing stars as well. At least I think it's a he, hmm never asked. Maybe that's why he/she is so pissed.
I'd expect a neocon like yourself to doubt the FACT of my gun toting fish. Michael Moore is finishing a documentary on the vast NRA/rightwing conspiracy involved in the aquatic hooligans.

And you should have seen the one that got away...

Neilk 11-16-2004 11:51 AM

According to ABC news who showed the footage last night, one Marine unit had engaged the enemy who surrendered because of their injuries. As the area was unsafe, the Marine unit left the wounded enemy and was going back to get them the next day. Unfortunately for the insurgents ANOTHER Marine unit came across them and one of the wounded was shot.

BFD, no ones perfect and ***** happens in combat.

lendaddy 11-16-2004 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by nostatic
I'd expect a neocon like yourself to doubt the FACT of my gun toting fish. Michael Moore is finishing a documentary on the vast NRA/rightwing conspiracy involved in the aquatic hooligans.

And you should have seen the one that got away...

Ok, once while diving the reef off the Keys a big ass baracuda swam right next to me. Freaked me out. Anyway as he was going by he reached into his scales and implied to have a gun of some type in there (you know like "don't f&&k with me man I'm packing") I didn't believe him and I certainly don't believe you.

nostatic 11-16-2004 12:01 PM

Hey, that was no baracuda...that was my ex-wife!

thank you very much...be sure to tip your server

dd74 11-16-2004 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by EdT82SC
I say good riddance. My only question is how come he let the other wounded terrorists live?
IIRC, the other two was a bearded "older" looking man slumped against a wall, and another who was partially slumped on the bearded man. The older man seemed to move as if alive - but looked not long for this world, so I imagine there was no question he wasn't up to any sort of activity. The second guy looked dead.

But again, the operative word in all this is "looked." I would imagine all assumptions go out the window at this rate. Who knows, though, what really was going on; I think the "history" of the soldier/shooter and what he witnessed the day before is as important as his action against the injured enemy. Not at all a black and white situation.

ubiquity0 11-16-2004 12:25 PM

I would expect that the terrorist in question made some move that appeared to the soldier as if he might have been reaching for a detonator or something. That would be a very reasonable explanation given past days events. Doesn't mean that its 'ok' by any means, but it was surely necessary given the circumstances.

SLO-BOB 11-16-2004 12:47 PM

Joe Clark and Purrybonker- Pretty easy to armchair quarterback from in front of a CRT isn't it? Might be a little different if you were the guy in the middle of combat.

Don't come off as so self-righteous. You tried and convicted your own fellow citizen and a soldier before hearing his side. Who's really the bad guy(s) here?

island911 11-16-2004 01:07 PM

I think that they are both Canadian, eh?

rcm 11-16-2004 01:38 PM

SmileWavy see ya.


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