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cantdrv55 11-16-2004 01:41 PM

Guys, don't be too hard on Purry and Joe Clark. The real bad guys here are CNN, Wolf Blitzer and the other media types who filmed this, showed it to the everybody, including the Arab world. For what purpose you might ask? To further entice insurgency and incite more anti-US sentiment. Oh, also for ratings.

Hey CNN, how about expressing outrage about using dead or wounded bodies as boobie traps?. I'm sure the mothers of the dead would rather get their children back whole rather than in several Glad sandwich baggies.

BigD9146gt 11-16-2004 01:56 PM

Can't drive 55, your DEAD ON THE MONEY! I dare anyone to counterdict what you said as false! The media is as crooked as any politian, if not worse. Just like Yaser Arifat saying that he wanted to be buried in Isreal, thats going to keep his stupid fallowers fighting for years to come!

Mark Wilson 11-16-2004 02:41 PM

It's a shame they shot that poor mother ****er in the head. Instead, we should treat them like the Japanese treated prisoners in WW2. Chop their sorry worthless ass heads off with a g***amn sword, then remove their livers and eat them sukiyaki style. Poor terrorists.......

SLO-BOB 11-16-2004 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cantdrv55
The real bad guys here are CNN, Wolf Blitzer and the other media types who filmed this, showed it to the everybody, including the Arab world. Oh, also for ratings.

Damn straight! Good form. Although I still get bugged by those who so easily buy into it.

As for chopping off heads, I'm all for it. Put 'em on poles around the city too. It's an ancient tactic used to scare the shyte out of the opposition. And when it comes right down to it-what's the difference? Dead is dead. Probably not as barbaric as it sounds because I'm sure it saves lives by ending the conflict faster. I maintain we should lead the world with fear and intimidation rather than politics and diplomacy. Really. Much less blood shed that way.

Yeah-I know. Our modern society needs wars that are a bit more palatable. The great hypocrisy-let's kill each other in a "civilized" manner. The French, inventors of the most efficient way of cutting off heads, would send us bad vibes and cut off our frommage supply if we cut off a head now and then over there.

dd74 11-16-2004 04:06 PM

Well, not that CNN and the others are strictly anti-U.S. troops. They're also anti terrorists as shown here...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/16/iraq.hassan/index.html

A photo of the latest insurgent/terrorist execution victim:

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/WORLD/me...san.mirror.jpg

azasadny 11-16-2004 04:28 PM

These things happen in wars, that's why war is the "hell" that it is. Split second decisions are made by people when the adrenaline is flowing. We don't need cameras everywhere...

jm951 11-16-2004 04:57 PM

For you liberals out there and those who out of hand condemn this kid, we were in another conflict where our Marines were univerally acknowledged as heros. In that same conflict the enemy suffered 100% casualties in every case, namely WW2. The Japanese were famous for using some of the same tactics, luring in Marines ostensibly for medical aid and then ambushing them with grenades or pistols. They would also "play dead" and wait for an unsuspecting Marine to walk nearby and then "arise" and attack. So, as my uncle put it- 'if they wanted to play dead, we made sure they went by the rules". If you haven't done any reading about WW2, the Marines routinely traversed combat areas after the main shooting was over and capped the "dead" bodies to be sure they wouldn't have a ressurection to attack from the rear.

Now, examine what you are really wanting. You're supporting an enemy who doesn't abide by the laws of armed conflict while expecting our guys to bend over backwards to not remotely infinge on said laws, even at the expense of the lives of our Marines. You're also supporting the terrorists who routinely car bomb a populated area, many times without Marines or US personnel nearby, just to kill people. You're supporting terrorists who play dead and ambush our guys. You're supporting terrorists who don't wear uniforms and hide behind civilians. You're supporting terrorists who hold those same civilians at gunpoint to use them as human shields. You're supporting terrorists who hack off prisoners heads with knives or shoot blindfolded women in the head. You're supporting terrorists who have no respect for human decency or the laws of armed conflict.

Why in the world should we question what that Marine did under these circumstances? You libs need to have a serious morality check as to who is the enemy here and what they are doing on a daily basis.

rammstein 11-16-2004 05:17 PM

This once again illustrates how much our soldiers sacrifice for us. I can't imagine being one of these guys. I wish the best for our soldiers, and hope they make their way home safely. In the meantime, all we can do is squash jackasses who want to see them prosecuted for FIGHTING A WAR.

Someone lock the door behind the two jackasses who left.

952 11-16-2004 05:25 PM

I saw that video yesterday... disgusting. Are the soldiers likely to be charged with war crimes?

Just because a news crew filmed it does not take away accountability of action.

SLO-BOB 11-16-2004 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 952
I saw that video yesterday... disgusting. Are the soldiers likely to be charged with war crimes?

Just because a news crew filmed it does not take away accountability of action.

I give you-


"the man who didn't read the rest of the thread."http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/...amingdevil.gif

rammstein 11-16-2004 05:31 PM

What was the crime? Shooting at an apparently unarmed man, who was shooting at them yesterday, who could have a bomb under him?

I suppose according to you, the way to handle it would be to ask the guy if he had a bomb on him, and if he didn't respond walk over and turn him over and check first before taking aggressive action? Tell me, is this your solution? If not, tell me what solution you would pursue. Just remember, the idea is for our soldiers to not die.

952 11-16-2004 05:35 PM

Oh I didnt read the article I was going off the footage I saw yesterday... thank god they are going to be held accountable.

952 11-16-2004 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rammstein
What was the crime? Shooting at an apparently unarmed man, who was shooting at them yesterday, who could have a bomb under him?

I suppose according to you, the way to handle it would be to ask the guy if he had a bomb on him, and if he didn't respond walk over and turn him over and check first before taking aggressive action? Tell me, is this your solution? If not, tell me what solution you would pursue. Just remember, the idea is for our soldiers to not die.

Easy answer... stick to the rules. They are there for a reason. Like it hate it, I dont care.

rammstein 11-16-2004 05:37 PM

Care to field an answer to my question, or are you only good at pointing out problems and not so good at solutions?

rammstein 11-16-2004 05:39 PM

That is a ludicrous response. Tell me, step by step, in the scenerio faced by the soldier in this video, what you would have done. No "I would follow the rules" BS, tell me EXACTLY what you would do.

rcecale 11-16-2004 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 952
Oh I didnt read the article I was going off the footage I saw yesterday... thank god they are going to be held accountable.
The POS terrorist was shot dead! They can't hold him any more accountable than that for fighting against our Marines!

Get a clue, man! Get a friggin clue!

Randy

952 11-16-2004 05:41 PM

Here is exactly what I would do... anything that is not a crime, it does not pay and he got sprung.

rammstein 11-16-2004 05:42 PM

You are worthless- ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(the reason you won't is because you are WRONG)

rammstein 11-16-2004 05:44 PM

952's detailed responses so far:

"Easy answer... stick to the rules. They are there for a reason. Like it hate it, I dont care"

"Here is exactly what I would do... anything that is not a crime, it does not pay and he got sprung."

Seems like someone has no answer

952 11-16-2004 05:45 PM

I provided an answer... how can I be wrong about what exactly?

Ok, so here is a wounded unarmed guy. I would go over and take him prisioner. Happy?


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