What to expect from Condi...

[fintstone]

Originally posted by cool_chick
Oh yeah, that's important. Load up the cabinet with women/minorities instead of loading up the cabinet with COMPETENCY.
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Have you read Dr Rice's resume/biography? Try comparing that to the recent Democrat Sec of State.....Albright. You liberals are so transparent in you misinformation/ignorance because you totally disregard the facts. No wonder most Americans vote conservative...Sure..call the black woman incompetent...stupid...etc. try to appeal to that KKK element of the Democratic party for the next election...since the liberal policy of entitlement no longer seem to reverberate with minority voters who would rather have the opportunity to suceed or fail at earning the good life...than have some bed-wetting liberal politician decide/give them what they think is appropriate....then tax away/redistribute the rest.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by cool_chick
Damn liberals! They all should burn in hell!

Works for me.

[RoninLB]

Originally posted by fintstone
...since the liberal policy of entitlement no longer seem to reverberate with minority voters who would rather have the opportunity to suceed or fail at earning the good life...than have some bed-wetting liberal politician decide/give them what they think is appropriate....then tax away/redistribute the rest.

the best is the Dem's preventing the lower working clsss from gaining over some control of their Soc Security. Possibility the only chance they will ever get to have some meaningful savings that they can eventually pass on to their families. They're afraid of a new generation of mini-capitalists following the stock and bond markets.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by fintstone
Have you read Dr Rice's resume/biography? Try comparing that to the recent Democrat Sec of State.....Albright. You liberals are so transparent in you misinformation/ignorance because you totally disregard the facts. No wonder most Americans vote conservative...Sure..call the black woman incompetent...stupid...etc. try to appeal to that KKK element of the Democratic party for the next election...since the liberal policy of entitlement no longer seem to reverberate with minority voters who would rather have the opportunity to suceed or fail at earning the good life...than have some bed-wetting liberal politician decide/give them what they think is appropriate....then tax away/redistribute the rest.

WTF did you think I was talking about Rice? Is Rice the only one appointed?

The rest of this quote is the most laughable crap I've read in a long time. You have called liberals these things:

1. ignorant
2. misinformed
3. disregarding the facts
4. racist
5. appealing to the KKK element
6. liberal politicians are bed wetting
7. liberal politicians redistribute the wealth in this country

What a freaking joke. Seriously.

The best part is these things eerily sound like many republicans out there.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by RoninLB
the best is the Dem's preventing the lower working clsss from gaining over some control of their Soc Security. Possibility the only chance they will ever get to have some meaningful savings that they can eventually pass on to their families. They're afraid of a new generation of mini-capitalists following the stock and bond markets.

HAHAHAHA

OMG LIBERALS ARE SOOOO AFRAID OF THAT. They're soooo afraid of people passing meaningful savings on to their famillies. They're so afraid...very afraid. They're sooo terrified that they can't sleep at night thinking about people passing meaningful savings on to their families.

They lie awake at night wringing their hands!



You guys ever bother doing some thinking for a change? Here's a tip, try it. Quit listening to Rush and try to do some thinking on your own.

[cool_chick]

RE: then tax away/redistribute the rest.

1. FACT the monetary difference between the rich and poor is WIDENING and has been WIDENING for a long time, which makes this statement COMPLETELY FALSE....a LIE if you will.

2. Fiscal responsibility seems to not be a priority among republicans. What a disgusting trait. I find those who are responsible with their money (as I am) very appealing. Glad I know how you feel about being responsible.

[cegerer]

"4. racist"

I only called them Nr. 4 (so far.....) and provided 5 specific examples of indisputable proof. There will be more to come in the following weeks as Rice's confirmation proceeds ..... it's only a matter of time before some well-known Democrat politician slips up and spews some racist remark that the mainstream media won't be able to ignore.

[928ram]

1. FACT the monetary difference between the rich and poor is WIDENING and has been WIDENING for a long time, which makes this statement COMPLETELY FALSE....a LIE if you will.

Well yes, and it will continue to widen I hope.

Instead of labeling them Haves/Have Nots, how about we label them Dos/Do Nots; surely working hard to cut out a living should widen the gap between you and those who chose to do nothing but wait for the gravy train to arrive in the mail every month.

Yes, there are people in the country who are trying their hardest to get out of a bad situation and need any help they can get to improve their position, I for one applaud anything we can do to help these folks live a better life.
However, the US absolutely has to be the world leader of persons who have by their actions or inactions put themselves in a position of poverty, and have no intention of putting forth any effort to get out of poverty. And why not, as long as those govt checks come along with enough dough to by some bon-bons and a bag of pot every month they are happy.
It's the support of those who intend to stay in poverty that hurts the most the chance of those who really,truly need the help.

[cool_chick]

928, I don't give a **** what someone else has....

but to blatently lie by saying liberal politicians want to "redistribute the rest" when that hasn't happened, in fact been totally contrary to that statement for the past 35 years....there is absolutely no evidence to substantiate the claim that liberal politicians want to "redistribute the rest".....in fact, evidence points to the total and complete contrary (rich and poor gap is widening).

Again, I live very comfortably and am very happy. I'm a professional and I save/can buy what I want, etc...in other words, I live well. But I will not let statements that are lies go. Liberal politicians "redistributing the wealth" has no substantiation WHATSOEVER.



The core of my comments were addressing a statement that wasn't true, not to claim I want what someone else has....cuz I don't want for anything I don't already have.

[turbo6bar]

Originally posted by cool_chick
Again, I live very comfortably and am very happy. I'm a professional and I save/can buy what I want, etc...in other words, I live well. But I will not let statements that are lies go. Liberal politicians "redistributing the wealth" has no substantiation WHATSOEVER.

Could not Kerry's proposed tax plan be considered a redistribution of wealth?
jurgen

[Bleyseng]

Instead of labeling them Haves/Have Nots, how about we label them Dos/Do Nots; surely working hard to cut out a living should widen the gap between you and those who chose to do nothing but wait for the gravy train to arrive in the mail every month.

Yes, there are people in the country who are trying their hardest to get out of a bad situation and need any help they can get to improve their position, I for one applaud anything we can do to help these folks live a better life.
However, the US absolutely has to be the world leader of persons who have by their actions or inactions put themselves in a position of poverty, and have no intention of putting forth any effort to get out of poverty. And why not, as long as those govt checks come along with enough dough to by some bon-bons and a bag of pot every month they are happy.
It's the support of those who intend to stay in poverty that hurts the most the chance of those who really,truly need the help. [/B][/QUOTE]

Sorry, thats the biggest bunch of selfish neocon crap I have read here. There are very few people who do nothing and wait for the gov. check to arrive. I always have been amazed at this attitude because its one of the biggest reason's the US is sliding. What happened the Christian ethics to help out those who are less fortunate? Try sometime this holiday season to make a difference by spending time volunteering at a food bank or at your church handing out blankets to the homeless. Then you might see really whats going on in the US and you will be proud to know that some tax money does help people who need help instead of paying for farmland to lie fallow,subidize excess milk production or other "government pork" programs.
Back on topic- I think Condi Rice should have been fired the day after 911 happened. This admin. amazes me since they award incompetence with promotion. Of course, look at Rumsfeld. Another guy that should be fired for his incompetence.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by turbo6bar
Could not Kerry's proposed tax plan be considered a redistribution of wealth?
jurgen

I suppose I could see how you could view that way, but I would presume redistribution means this: take money from the rich and give to the poor.

I viewed the tax plan as a way to get the deficit down (no poor person would be getting extra). I also viewed this as an effective way to get the deficit down without throwing the economy in further turmoil (those who make more can tolerate the increase more than those who makes less). By ignoring the deficit, we're already seeing falling dollar, inflation, etc. Ignoring the deficit and letting the government run the way it's been running is going to hurt us in the long term, and those tax cuts you see will be gone in the form of higher prices.

Personally, I don't care how it's done, even if my taxes get raised, but either spending has to go down, or taxes have to go up. Bottom line. Something needs to be done.

No one likes taxes, but it's time we face reality.

[turbo6bar]

OK, I would have to agree with ya.

I took exception to the words '"redistributing the wealth" has no substantiation WHATSOEVER.' Lowering taxes for everyone and raising taxes for top 2% of earners could certainly be construed as redistribution of wealth, within reason.

I prefer reined spending and level taxes, or raised taxes for justified causes, ONLY.

[cool_chick]

Well, what some fail to take into consideration is that these recent tax breaks benefited the rich far more than the middle class.

The argument can be made that the tax breaks of recent years were disproportional and unfair to the middle class.

A counter argument can be made that those who make more were disproportionately taxed prior to Bush. Which leads to the progressive tax system. One has to remember, the government wouldn't be able to sustain itself without taxing the "rich" at a higher rate. There simply wouldn't be enough revenue. Sad, but reality as it stands today.

[928ram]

Sorry, thats the biggest bunch of selfish neocon crap I have read here. There are very few people who do nothing and wait for the

Typical response from a left-coast lefty.

And this from the state where the hippies who think it's still 1969 flock from the hill every check day to buy their booze and cigarettes, then flock back to hide from society again; of course since alot of time has passed they flock down 3-4 generations strong now. Their choice to live like this and I'm supposed to pay them for it?
Please, the thing that prevents the truly poor and in need from getting help is those who use the sytem as a career and legacy.

[RoninLB]

Clintons welfare reform was successful. It's one of the 3or4 things he should banner.. actually Monica's DNA clothes should be on display. That banner could be charged admission for viewing.

targeted tax reductions properly done are economic stimulus. Economic stimulus = general higher standards of living. The dislocation of some people is the mainstream of US economic strength and flexibility. Ever wonder why Ireland is an economic dynamo making old Europe look bad? Ever wonder why Germany Had to change some old economic policies, although they will take a few short yrs to flow thru? Ever wonder why France is nervous over Germanys seemingly disconnect from old Europes socialism?

an interesting economic watch is the job growth of Germany vs France in the coming years.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by cool_chick
WTF did you think I was talking about Rice? Is Rice the only one appointed?

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Since you didn't indicate otherwise...the title of the thread made me suspect you were talking about Condi...wouldn't you think the same?
So, just who was the incompetent appointment you are referring to?

[fintstone]

Originally posted by cool_chick
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The rest of this quote is the most laughable crap I've read in a long time. You have called liberals these things:

1. ignorant
2. misinformed
3. disregarding the facts
4. racist
5. appealing to the KKK element
6. liberal politicians are bed wetting
7. liberal politicians redistribute the wealth in this country

What a freaking joke. Seriously.

The best part is these things eerily sound like many republicans out there.

All are true and more...don't forget your party's "outing" of Cheney's daughter during both the presidential and vice presidential debates....guess you are trying to appeal to the homophobe crowd also.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by cool_chick
HAHAHAHA

OMG LIBERALS ARE SOOOO AFRAID OF THAT. They're soooo afraid of people passing meaningful savings on to their famillies. They're so afraid...very afraid. They're sooo terrified that they can't sleep at night thinking about people passing meaningful savings on to their families.

They lie awake at night wringing their hands!
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They campaign against it and vote against it...why would you think they feel differently?

[fintstone]

Originally posted by cool_chick
I suppose I could see how you could view that way, but I would presume redistribution means this: take money from the rich and give to the poor.
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Redistribution simply means to take money from anyone and give to anyone else .