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Hyperbole would be a good description. I see her as an entertainer rather than a serious intellectual.
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By having Man on Foxnews 12 hours a week and propping her up and helping him sell books just shows Foxnews endorses psychopaths like him. Same goes for Michael Malkin, anybody who wants to go on TV and blame anybody but Xtian/white people gets a timeslot.
These same crazies at Foxnews have on Swaggart and other delusional leaders of the Xtian right as if they are credible and to be believed. They are the Mullah Omars of America, the Taliban of Xtainity Man says liberals are worse than terrorist. So who really hates Americans? You guys can live in your fantasy hatred world if you want. Secretly hating your neighbors for all the problems in your life, always assigning blame of others for your failures. It will create bleeding ulcers in you and cancer from the stress that will end up killing you in the long run. |
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Its pretty amazing how people like Ann Coulter, Micheal Moore are able to dedicate their lives to coming up with bad stuff to say about others. Virtually every sentence they write or speak is negative & constructed for the sole purpose of defammation. Were these types of people bullied horribly in school or something?
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Half the registered voters in America are liberals, and yet Ms. Coulter (and I use that term liberally) and many of you, consider us to be more treacherous than terrorists.
Listen to what you're saying. Let's pretend that a couple of million votes went the other way. Are you willing to assert that the majority of Americans are traitors? Ms. Coulter is. Make sense? Of course not. It's logically impossible. Want to tell us you're impressed with Ms. Coulter's intelligence? Hmmmmmm.
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if, if, if...could we please at least pretend we won the election...LOL The whole point of Coulter's appeal is she clearly shows one thing...liberals can dish it out nonstop...but they cannot take it. Coulter is the one conservative that paints liberals as colorfully as most liberals paint conservatives. Give me conservative icons that are intelligent, attractive, opinionated women (Malkin, Coulter) who overzealously support their country any day...over lying, fat slob liberal icons like M. Moore that hate their country and wish it ill.
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Ann Coulter is probably not demented. She just talks that way to get herself (compensated) airtime.
![]() Every once in a while she makes the error of bing on a non right-wing show and risks having to answer a question. Watch her squirm: -------------------- CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: I’m Chris Matthews. Let’s play HARDBALL. _____ _The “Big Story” tonight, best selling author, Ann Coulter, her new book is called “Treason”, and in it she says liberals are unpatriotic. She’ll be here to tell us why... _____ _ _____ _MATTHEWS: Let’s talk about the question of your book “Treason”. What do you mean by treason? Talk about the word treason? I mean, I’ve looked it up in the dictionary the other night, it has a couple of meanings. One is, treason. I mean, you turned over of the documents to the enemy. You are Alger Hiss, someone like that. That’s treason. _____ _COULTER: Right. _____ _MATTHEWS: What do you mean by-in terms of this cover of this book? _____ _COULTER: What I mean is that the Democratic Party, as an entity, has become functionally treasonable, including what you’re talking about, turning over documents to the enemy... _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _MATTHEWS: Well, should they be prosecuted? Should anybody in the party be prosecuted either today, or should have been prosecuted in the past? I mean, it’s a criminal charge of treason. Should anybody be charged with it? _____ _COULTER: I wish it were that easy a problem, but that trivializes the point... _____ _MATTHEWS: No, it’s a crime. _____ _COULTER: ... of my book, which is not that there are just a few dozen traitors out there. It is that the entire party cannot root for a America. _____ _MATTHEWS: Well, let’s talk about the leaders of the Democratic Party over the years. It-was Jack Kennedy a traitor, was he guilty of treason? _____ _COULTER: He was not as strong a president... _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _MATTHEWS: But was he guilty of treason. That is what you are saying about him. I read the book. _____ _COULTER: ... as a Republican would have been. But I’m referring, as I say again, I’m referring to a party that is functionality treasonable. _____ _MATTHEWS: Well, let me get to the bottom line here... _____ _COULTER: No, he shouldn’t have been tried. _____ _MATTHEWS: I just want to know who you mean, because I think it is a very well written book, but I find it hard for you to step back from the strength of this book on television. Was Jack Kennedy a traitor? _____ _COULTER: No, he was not a traitor. _____ _MATTHEWS: Was he guilty of treason? _____ _COULTER: His heart was in the right place but he was surrounded by bad policymakers... _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _MATTHEWS: Was he guilty of treason... _____ _COULTER: ... and he harms the country and its national security. No. I’ve said he is not guilty of treason. I am speaking of a party. If there were just a few... _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _MATTHEWS: OK. I am just going to go through the leaders of the Democratic Party, because you are talking about a party. So I am trying to be fair with you. Was Harry Truman a traitor? _____ _COULTER: He promoted a known soviet spy, Harry Dexter White, after the FBI told him that. After Winston Churchill gave his iron curtain speech, he invited Stalin to come give a rebuttal speech. Truman and Kennedy were far better than today’s Democrats were, but this is a party that has been creeping toward a refusal to defend America. _____ _MATTHEWS: Has Harry Truman... _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _COULTER: I’m not talking about individuals. _____ _MATTHEWS: ... Republicans, I am going to keep doing this. I am trying to nail down so that people can decide whether to read a book or not. Was Harry Truman guilty of treason? _____ _COULTER: I think it’s a more important indictment and you can keep asking me to say this is an entire party that cannot be trusted. _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _MATTHEWS: You say the Democratic Party is guilty of treason. I just want you to tell me which of the top Democrats, not go into details-I agree with you by the way about Harry Dexter White. I agree with you about Alger Hiss. There is a lot of these people guilty of treason,... _____ _COULTER: But you are asking me... _____ _MATTHEWS: ... but which Democratic Party official-which official of the Democratic Party, or its leadership... _____ _COULTER: I’ll give you my thesis again. My thesis is, that the entire Democratic Party cannot be trusted with the defense of the nation. _____ _MATTHEWS: Start with a name, please. _____ _COULTER: It is not to start trying a few individuals. I wouldn’t... _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _MATTHEWS: OK. We’re not getting anywhere here because you don’t want to give me any names. _____ _COULTER: That is because I am talking about the Democratic Party. _____ _That is the name I am trying to give you. _____ _MATTHEWS: OK. Half the American people, roughly, in most elections averaged over the last 50 years have voted Democrat, let’s face it, for president. Those people who vote for Democratic candidates for president after hearing their case with regard to foreign policy, why would they vote for someone who you say is a traitor? _____ _COULTER: Because this story has not been told, because I have what has been systemically excluded from history books in high school and college, and that is why I wrote this book, to prove to Democrats, as Joe McCarthy said... _____ _MATTHEWS: But half the people in the U.S. Army are probably Democrats. You say they vote for Democrats out of treasonable reasons? _____ _COULTER: I am saying, as Joe McCarthy said, the loyal Democrats of this party no longer-or of this country no longer have a party. This is a party that cannot defend America, that loses wars, that loses continents to communism-that nay say Ronald Reagan’s response to the Soviet Union, and then they keep turning around and say, oh, it was inevitable. No one lost China. Anyone would have lost Vietnam. It was... _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _MATTHEWS: Do you think if you oppose the war, you’re a treasonist for opposing the war? _____ _COULTER: No, but that’s why I have 50 years. At some point it’s not a mistake. It is not an error of judgment... _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _MATTHEWS: For example, was it wrong for Pat Buchanan to oppose this war in Iraq? Was he treasonous for doing it? _____ _COULTER: I think I’ve answered that. No. A single — Look, Pat Buchanan has shown his bona fides in a million other areas. _____
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_MATTHEWS: Then Jack Kemp is not a traitor for opposing the war... _____ _COULTER: These are patriotic Americans. They do not oppose the Strategic Defense Initiative. They did not oppose Ronald Reagan... _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _MATTHEWS: But they opposed-but all these top conservatives who opposed the war, were they wrong? Were they treasonist to do so? But with liberals oppose the war, they are treasonists. I am just trying to figure out what the difference is. _____ _COULTER: I’m just trying to answer. No, with someone like-are you _____ _” can I finish? _____ _MATTHEWS: Yes. _____ _COULTER: No. When someone like Pat Buchanan or Robert Novak say they’re against the war in Iraq, no, that gives someone like me pause, and thinks, I just disagree with them on this issue. But as I say, they do not scream that the country is in the middle of a civil liberties crisis every time Ashcroft talks to a Muslim. They do not ... _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _MATTHEWS: Yes, but the problem I have is that a lot of Republicans... _____ _COULTER: They do not oppose... _____ _MATTHEWS: ... in fact, most Republicans in the country opposed the Second World War... _____ _COULTER: Let met finish... _____ _MATTHEWS: No. I want to make a point in response to that, because I think a lot of Republicans have opposed a lot of wars over time, and you haven’t called them traitors. Why do you call Democrats traitors when they oppose a war? _____ _COULTER: To get back to this point. Once you have an entire series of incidents-why is it that the Democratic Party keeps consistently taking the position that is most contrary to this country’s national interest? When you have someone like Pat Buchanan or Novak, you say, well, we disagree on this issue. The Democrats fight unwinable wars. They lose continents to communism. They’ve consistently been on the wrong side of every issue. _____ _MATTHEWS: Was World War II a Democrat war? _____ _COULTER: That’s why it’s 50 years and not 60. _____ _MATTHEWS: Were the Republicans willing to oppose World War II before Pearl Harbor right? And they vigorously opposed getting involved in the war in Europe. _____ _COULTER: As I describe in my book, they were wrong and I have to describe this... _____ _MATTHEWS: The Republicans were wrong? _____ _COULTER: Yes, they were. _____ _MATTHEWS: Were they traitors? _____ _COULTER: No. They came around... _____ _MATTHEWS: But when liberals oppose wars, they are treasonists. _____ _We’ll be right back with Ann Coulter. I’m trying to get these definitions down and being nice to this brilliant writer. _____ _COULTER: Then next time let me answer. _____ _MATTHEWS: Back with more to talk about-plenty of opportunity to answer. You wouldn’t believe how much time I give you. Anyway, thank you. _____ _We are going to be back and talk with Ann about her opponent on the bookshelves, Hillary Clinton, when we return. _____ _And by the way, “Decision 2004” is coming up, and Howard Dean, by the way, is raising more money than the moderates. We are going to talk about that when we come back-with Howard Fineman. _____ _(COMMERCIAL BREAK) _____ _MATTHEWS: We’re back with Ann Coulter, having an interesting discussion about what constitutes treason. I just think-I think that the constitution-respond to this statement, I want to ask you a question. The constitution left the issue of peace and war basically in the hands of Congress in the terms of big decisions about declarations of war, and in this case, we had a debate about going to war with Iraq and the president won his case. But I think the right of an American to argue whether we go to war or not is basic, and you, I think, argue that when someone opposes a war action, they are somehow is treasonist. I think that’s a broad brush, and I think it makes a lot of very good people, including me, feel very angry. _____ _COULTER: No. I... _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _MATTHEWS: Because I disagree in America’s interest with a lot of these wars. I don’t think there’s good for us. _____ _COULTER: Yes. From what I hear, dissenting from the nation’s war aims is the more patriotic act, but the one thing you’re not allowed to say is to call someone unpatriotic. You can say it’s unpatriotic to stop us from protesting, but you can’t say burning a flag is unpatriotic. _____ _MATTHEWS: No. I just think people should be free to express their views on a matter so important as war, and if a person... _____ _COULTER: They clearly are. _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _MATTHEWS: ... opposes a war, they shouldn’t be called a traitor because they disagree with the current war policy. _____ _COULTER: Well, don’t worry. I’m the only one doing it. _____ _MATTHEWS: You’re doing it here. _____ _COULTER: That’s right. _____ _MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton’s book, how is it doing compared to yours? _____ _COULTER: Well, she has many advantages over me. _____ _MATTHEWS: You said she weighed more than you the other day. Was that the case? _____ _COULTER: She had a 3 to 1 pound advantage. Her book is also three times as large as mine. _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about this book. This book is very interesting, and I am not going to comment. I am going to let you comment on it. The principal difference between fifth columnists and the cold war versus the war on terrorism is that you could sit next to a communist in a subway without asphyxiating. What does that mean? I just want to know. What does that mean? I want to know. _____ _(CROSSTALK) _____ _COULTER: It means what it says. The second difference is, that in far more time the enemy that we’re up against now has killed far fewer people. _____ _MATTHEWS: So, but the enemy smells. Is that your knock against Arabs? I mean, that’s your point here. You sit next to them and you are asphyxiated while sitting next to them. _____ _COULTER: I’m just drawing the differences between the old war and the currents war. _____ _MATTHEWS: Is that a way to win friends in the Arab and Islamic world _____ _by saying they stink. _____ _COULTER: I think it is a way to get people... _____ _MATTHEWS: Is that deep? _____ _COULTER: ... to read my book, so I thank you. _____ _MATTHEWS: Well, I tell you. If you want it at that level, you got it right here. Anyway, she’s a great writer. I don’t agree with her, but she’s a hell of a writer. And thank you very much for coming on. She’s a real charmer. Ann Coulter. The last book was called “Slander.” Maybe this one should have been called that too.
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Yes, it is tough when they keep asking you questions but cut you off (crosstalk in your transcript) every time you try to give an answer. He did the same to Michelle Malkin. How rude and insulting! Especially from a buffoon who says "treasonist" instead of "treasonous." Wouldn't be a refreshing change if a liberal interviewer would allow the person being interviewed to respond?...what are they afraid of?
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I know it's a lot of words, fint, but I guess you missed that she wasn't able to articulate an answer -- not because of interruptions, but because she couldn't defend her contention that Republicans opposing a war are patriots while Democrats opposing a war are traitors.
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I understood her point very clearly, despite Matthews' typical hectoring style -- part of the egomania of an interviewer who insists on also being the subject of his interviews. Her thesis is that democrats have made increasingly bad judgments on national defense, evolving from isolated cases of varying significance into a distinct pattern of seriously bad decisions which might now be interpreted as a willful disregard for national defense on behalf of a more internationalist and United Nations worldview -- with arguably treasonous implications. As for recent specifics, Bill Clinton sold, or allowed to be sold via illicit commercial transfer, advanced and protected US satellite technology to the Chinese. This is certainly, at least arguably, treasonous. As for Matthews' smokescreen about Truman and Kennedy, these figures were not cited in Coulter's book and not really part of her thesis concerning the "creeping" evolutiuon of the party toward ideologically-driven bad judgments bordering on treason.
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Hilarious.
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