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				How do you pronounce this car-related person's name?
			 
			No not Dr Porsche. The guy that writes for Car and Driver "Csaba Csere". I heard it pronounced on TV this weekend and post the answer, but wanted to see if anyone else knows. Steve Wilkenson can't play!! 
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			Csaba Csere, (pronounced: Chubba Chedda) From one of his articles. For years I thought it was Saba Sere   
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			See I heard it pronouced by Matt Lauer "Chabba Chair-a" I looked up from the paper and I was like, hey it's that guy from C&D! What kind of name is that? Like what nationality? 
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			(“Csere of Apác[z]a”; János; 1625–59). B. Apác(z)a, Transylvania; prof. ref. theol. Karlweissenburg, Hung(ary)., 1653, Klausenburg 1656; Presb.; Cartesian (see Descartes, René).
		 
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			I agree with RickM. On his editorials, he used to have his name spelled out phonetically. Chubba Chedda.
		 
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			As a native born Hungarian, one does pronounce the "r", so Csaba is trying to get you to pronounce the "e" as "eh" or "fred", but you must also pronounce the "r" by rolling you tongue.  Hard to explain, easy to do. So it is mostly approximates as Chubba Cherrrrrrrreh. Hope this helps.............Andras 
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 I am a first generation Hungarian-American, and what Andras is stating is correct - Csaba Csere is pronounced: Chubba Cherreh. Funny thing is when I saw someone write "Saba Sere," I thought - egads! What a strange way to pronounce such an easy to read name!   -Zoltan. 
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			Thanks, I was always wondering how to pronounce that name right....
		 
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			Shall we continue with the Hungarian lessons? Csaba is one of the pagan names that Hungarians had before St.Stephan Christianized Hungary. Attila, Aladar, Huba are others, so forth and so forth. Quite a fascinating history, this small country no larger than Switzerland!!! 
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			I had wondered this alot too Always thought it was Chabba Chair | ||
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  (I think... ) -Z. 
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			This may have been covered in a past post - but I did get into it with a few guys over the proper pronuncian (sp) of Porsche.  Is it "Poor-sh" or "Poor-sha"?  "Jag-u-are" or "Jag-wire"?
		 
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			As Ferry said, "I don't care how they pronounce my name as long as they buy my cars"...  But I believe it is "por-sha".  As for that English car, I preferr Tigger's pronunciation of "Jagular"
		 
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			ZOLTAN!   
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			cool Hungarian lessons, thanks I remember reading somewhere that either Hungarian or Finnish are undisputably the most difficult languages to learn. They may be both tied for first. 
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			Try Dutch..
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 I believe the ancestors of the Hungarians, the Huns, migrated through Scandinavia before they settled in the plains of Hungary. As they travelled through different lands, they borrowed from the languages. But what you say it true - Hungarian is a very difficult language to learn - there are so many irregular verbs, odd pronounciations...etc. But the language itself is very colorful. For example, the word for Lilly of the Valley flower is gyonygyvirag. It literally means "Flower of pearls." Nevermind how to pronounce it!  cstreit: nice pic. That movie is so lame and funny at the same time... Perhaps me liking it has something to do with a certain character that's worshipped in the movie!  -Z. 
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			Hi Jared, Not trying to start a "holy war" but doesn't Dutch derive from the Germanic languages, and therefore sounds and writes somewhat similarly? (In fact I listen to Danish Radio on the InterNet at the office, and their writing look somewhat similar to the Germanic, and their speech sounds like Swizedutsch). Figure that out. Hungarian and Finnish stem from the same root (Finno-Ugric) many eons ago, but when the Finns went far north, normal evolution changed their language so that Hungarians and Finns can't understand each other. In fact, at our Drivers' Ed this past weekend, I met a Finn, and we discussed just this subject. God, this is fascinuiating stuff!!!!! 
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