Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
VincentVega's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: MD
Posts: 5,733
Tow Vechicle Help

I am looking into, no real hurry, 3/4 ton diesel trucks to tow the car to the track and for general home depot use. I've read a lot about dodge vs. chevy and so on and would appreciate any insight. Basic reasons for a diesel are better fuel economy and general durability.

My budget is less than 10k, hopefully about half that, so I am looking at ~10yr old higher mileage trucks. I dont need GPS, leather or extending power mirrors, that will be the next truck.

Cummins seems to make the longest lasting, most durable engine, compared specifically to the GM 6.5. However, it seems Dodge automatic transmissions arent exactly known for longevity. Anyone care to share personal experience on this topic? I dont mind driving a stick truck, but have never towed with one.

Should I reconsider a 6.5 in a GM? Stick with Cummins and budget $$ for a future tranny rebuild? Go with the Cummins and a manual?

I plan to tow an open trailer at first and of course know that might turn into an enclosed trailer before too long.

Thanks!

Old 02-16-2005, 01:16 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Bill Verburg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 26,402
Garage
I've been towing w/ an old Dodge Cummin/4 spd. for years, the truck sucks, everything is falling off(including wheels) it's been run into the river and generally been beaten to death, but the engine keeps on humming along. It still tows unbelievable loads w/o complaint.
__________________
Bill Verburg
'76 Carrera 3.6RS(nee C3/hotrod), '95 993RS/CS(clone)
| Pelican Home |Rennlist Wheels |Rennlist Brakes |
Old 02-16-2005, 01:51 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
vash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: in my mind.
Posts: 31,742
Garage
Send a message via AIM to vash
i think bbs member westy is selling a F350 diesel truck that is well in your budget. i looked into a 3/4 ton dodge, used. and 2001 went for mid to high 20's. bottom line, used diesel trucks seem to hold the value. and i would say 80% of the contractors i work with use ford.
__________________
poof! gone
Old 02-16-2005, 02:08 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
kumma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 329
Do you really need a 3/4 ton diesel. How much use do you honestly expect to get out of it? how many miles? I have towed my 911 with a 98 chevy 1/2 ton as well as with my 87 jimmy with a 4" lift. With either truck I couldnt tell I was towing anything. If you were buying new i would question the need for a heavy duty truck but Being used it might not make much difference to go with a regular 1/2 ton truck or 3/4 ton.

Just a side note I got a great laugh at my neighbor who bought a new super duty 250 4X4 to tow his 14' aluminum row boat around.
Old 02-16-2005, 02:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
VincentVega's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: MD
Posts: 5,733
Good point Kumma. The car is 2550, trailer maybe 1800 plus gear. That's WAY under the limit of most v8 trucks. I like the idea of better fuel economy and figure I might be moving to an enclosed trailer in another couple years. It seems resale of diesels is also something to think about. Unless the truck is beat to hell it doesnt seem to depricate much after it's 6-8 yrs old. Also, diesel trucks are snatched up with ~200k miles all day, not sure if I would say that about their gas brothers.

Thanks for the info guys!
Old 02-16-2005, 05:42 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Unconstitutional Patriot
 
turbo6bar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: volunteer state
Posts: 5,620
Dodge tranny would have no problem handling that load. I would only buy diesel if you plan to hold for a long time. The operating savings would be offset by the higher purchase price. I've heard too many bad things (anecdotal, I admit) about the old GM diesels. There are too many nice Powerstrokes and Cummins rigs to overlook GM totally. I wish there was a nice mid-size (F-150) diesel powered truck on the market.
Old 02-16-2005, 06:00 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
Registered
 
Eric 951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Pensburgh
Posts: 5,630
Chris,

I wouldn't rule out the Powerstroke--I have a '99 with 190K--and many of our company vehicles have between 200-350K(all are Powerstrokes of various vintages) Just make sure you get one with LSD(or actually they are called lockers in the Ford lexicon)--believe it or not, but this was an option--even on the Super Duty.

Some of our employees have the Cummins--no major complaints from them--although as you said--1 Dodge had the tranny go at 250K, but this was a 360-powered Heavy Duty not the Diesel.
__________________
Eric
83 911SC/83 944
bunch of Honda 750s
69 Chevrolet C-20 Longhorn (family heirloom)
Old 02-17-2005, 04:33 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Cars & Coffee Killer
 
legion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: State of Failure
Posts: 32,246
Quote:
Originally posted by turbo6bar
I wish there was a nice mid-size (F-150) diesel powered truck on the market.
I agree! I've been thinking that an F150 with an inline 6 diesel at around 4 liters would be the ideal p-car tow vehicle.

My '97 F150 with a 4.3 liter V6 can tow 9000 lbs. A little easier on the wallet than a V8.

__________________
Some Porsches long ago...then a wankle...
5 liters of VVT fury now
-Chris

"There is freedom in risk, just as there is oppression in security."
Old 02-17-2005, 05:03 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:07 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.