she could wake up. it's happened before. the more i hear about this story, the more it's becoming evident that her husband is lying about what she told him she wanted.
for some reason or another, he's wanted her dead from day 1.

The way Bush is heading, you will need Congressional approval to euthanize a pet.

Bryan, she cannot swallow. If she could swallow, why would they have surgically inserted a tube in her stomach?

Her cerebral cortex has atrophied and the area has filled with spinal fluid.

Although it's remotely possible, it's highly unlikely.

http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/functional.html

but they've never taken an MRI, how do they know this? facts, please.

I'm not sure because I am not a doctor, however I would presume those court appointed, neutral doctors who have testified as to same are more qualified than me. You do, however, raise a good point.

Don't believe all the right to life crap that is circulating on the internet and badly researched 'news' stories.

She had also had EEG tests done that show there is no cerebral activity going on in whats left of her cortex.

So the brain matter is liguified and severly damaged and there is no discernable neurological activity in the areas that make us thinking human beings.

The right to lifers have played very loose and fast with a very limited set of facts to make the case of pulling the plug on a brain dead woman look like the case of starving a retard to death.

Watch out! 350 used the "R" word! :eek:


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111551040.jpg

I know about an extraordinary severe brain damage story that led me to be curious. My "look" was from a wrench's eye at the most complicated machine in the universe. [btw.. using all brain diagnostic machinery is like using a leak down test.] The macho details is a real boys story from a guy that has a history of being involved in various life threatening situations. These situations led to 50/50 events where fighting like a wild Grizzly or being as cool as a pro poker player meant survival. He was written off by every brain specialist MD in the metro NYC area to sitting in a wheelchair and staring at the walls forever.

Go figure the ending.

Okay, he's up and about, but I bet he ain't as good as he was before his accident.

She has NOT had an MRI nor PET scan - these are standard tests for evaluating PVS.

- Skip

"extraordinary severe brain damage story" "The macho details is a real boys story".


He was told by MD's and techs acquantances, in bewilderment, in staring disbelief, that "only a guy like you could have turned the rules inside out".

fwiw.. preplanning for such an event among his friends involved an air bubble into the iv. Family, laws, and politics, becomes bs at times.

and the comment "but I bet he ain't as good as he was before his accident" can mean anything from a weakness in information intake and retrival to having to kill a bully in order to prevent a good head punch.. which he knows how to do with his hands btw.


the point is ""The macho details is a real boys story".

Well, I'm a little slow right now. So what's the upshot? Is he as good as before the accident, or not? What's the point here? And what are you trying to say? Some people pull out of catastrophic brain injuries? Of course they do - but for all intents of/and purposes, Schiavo is still machine dependent and not expected to improve. If so, taking the feeding tube out of her would be part of the process of her recovery - that is if she could recover.

uh-huh. . . hospitals are so reluctant to run diagnostic tests. Plus, they really haven't had the time ..so you must be right. :rolleyes:

I would ask you; where do you get this stuff . . but I know.

I'm really appalled by the tactics used by talk-radio, and congress, on this one. . . .and for what end? So that we are asured that government will take away more rights?

The husband put in years of effort . . .and then made the tough call.

Let his call stand. If not, marriage has been diluted once again; diluted with government control & bureaucracy.

Where in the world do you get that the husband is lying? Have you spoken with him? Why can't you believe him?

"he wanted her dead from day 1" WHAT? Where did you get this from? No one has ever said that. Do you just make this stuff up?

Would it change your mind if you found out, in fact, that the husband will not allow an MRI or PET scan?

- Skip

I see his opponents as his in-laws. As for the argument that the republicans/goverment are interfering in a private matter, who brought them into the mix in the first place?....THE PARENTS. They will do anything to save their daughter and they happened to have struck a chord.

At this point I just don't want her to suffer one way or the other.

Not picking sides, but a nurse that use to treat her said he would ask "when is that b1tch gonna die" and brag about how much $ he was getting, etc... She claimed he would order them not to attempt therapy on her, etc... Is she lying? How would I know, but I heard her make these claims myself.

Over the last 15 years she has had how many care givers? 150-300? My mother was in ICU for a week and never saw the same nurse twice. So out of the hundreds of people that has come in contact with her there is ONE nurse which has come out and made some pretty wild claims. She said she saw him try to kill her. Her claims were investigated and she was fired from her job.

There is also reports that Terri has never had one bed sore. She has been at a Hospice facility. This is not some *****hole dump. It is the best place for her to be.

Ok, assuming it's true she hasn't had an MRI or PET (which I find incredulous since she's been a salad without dressing for nigh on 15 years) - SO WHAT? She probably hasn't been put thru a 5-axis CNC mill, either. What will an MRI or PET tell us different?

I had an MRI on my right knee a couple years ago, in an attempt to diagnose an ACL problem. The MRI showed no problem, yet in surgery it was found that it was completely severed. I just had an MRI on the other knee, and guess what? They say it's completely normal...