When I was 19...

[Moses]

Originally posted by stevepaa
I'll bite. How do you get a belief in a god from evolution?

Biblical creation is simple and childlike. God says, "I'll make a giraffe and a pengiun and a Bristlecone pine!"

What greater miracle could there be than an omniscient God who creates a simple form of life with an infinite capacity for change and adaptation. Imagine God's creation as an ongoing event, perpetual and timeless.

The remarkable order of nature and the ever-changing face of "life" is a far greater miracle than any described in the Bible. The beauty and complexity of God's miracle dwarfs any tale dreamed of by the prophets.

The secrets of the double helix trump anything I ever read in the scriptures.

[lendaddy]

Moses has it, I was too anibriated to convey it so simply. On the flip side it is still too complex too have just happened. It's like fine art as done.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally posted by creaturecat
I'll bite as well,please elaborate!

For me, the basis for the theory of evolution is that everything, and I mean everything, in our world is hierarchical. And all you need to do is go a few levels down to the most basic description of our existence to see that from quantum mechanics to astro-physics, all we are talking about are building blocks, with higher levels of complexity yielding more elegant returns on our investment experience.

Since our physical world, the very basis for our existence is based on hierarchies, it only makes sense that “life” follows suit. I disagree with Len that life is too complex for it to have just happened. When you combine the laws of quantum mechanics with time with surface area, evolution really makes sense. We exist principally by the interaction of multiple non-specific chemical bonds, which is just beautiful since on just one or two more levels up in complexity, we are really all about very specific cell receptors and their unique enzyme keys. I love the idea of order out of chaos, built on the laws of physics. That’s what evolution is, the natural manipulation of so many random physical events governed my immutable laws over so much time over so much area, that something “naturally” takes shape, and is stable enough to be built upon.

Also, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the amount of time we are talking about to create something like a human being starting with random molecules is as inconceivable as the idea of God itself. One is certainly more comforting than the other however.

Anyway, given all of this, it only makes sense that there is something beyond our experience. Quantum Mechanics and String Theory tell us about multiple dimensions, particles, energy states, etc., so it only makes sense that anything built upon those laws transcends our own experience, in the same way as the idea of God or the time it takes to create a human does.

Where is gets interesting is to connect our experience with the theory of god. Something I’ve noodled for awhile are the very abstract concepts of conscience (innate knowledge of right and wrong) and the soul. These for me are the greatest proof that there is a connection between god and man, metaphysical at best, but it’s there, and I think it’s more an energy state within a dimension we cannot recognize, but still do experience, than anything else. My vote is it’s somehow wrapped up in the dimension of time.

[creaturecat]

Apparenty even mentioning the E word is considered blasphemy in the southern US.
Scary times - the dumbing down of America.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1441818,00.html

[john70t]

A question I've had is why hasen't the universe equalized?
If high energy flows to low energy, wouldn't all molecules over time seperate and become equal-distantly dispersed throughout space? There must be something more adding energy than the adjoining particals.
And after a trillion spins and climatic changes that add and subtract ice mass from the poles, why hasen't the earth changed orbit and flown off into space?

[island911]

The bigger question is; why must man insist on having an explaination of EVERYTHING?

hmmmm

Just think, if man didn't soooo need an explaination of Everything, religion would not have control. . .. as religion would not exist.


. ..or would it?

[tabs]

Originally posted by nostatic
"Well, I believe in the soul, the c*ck, the p*ssy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve, and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days."

- Crash Davis

Nostatus your cynicism makes me want to cry... there is a real emptyness in you....you either don't know or have forgotten that you can love...for we are nothing without it...even my lowly dog loves....and it is that capacity that gentles us and calms us that everything is in the natural order of things....Now back to the fking Poker Tables....