separate security lines for first class?

stevepaa · 03-30-2005, 01:23 PM

I fly enough that this is starting to bother me. When the security personnel at airports were being paid by the airlines, there was a separate line for airline club members, and first class passengers.

Now that the TSA is funded by us taxpayers, I thought those lines would be done away with. Nope. And I can't seem to find anyone at the airlines who can address this.

Hence, my poll.

Joeaksa · 03-30-2005, 02:13 PM

As long as the "rich and famous" are getting better treatment by the TSA, nothing is going to change.

Rode the airlines twice a week, 51 weeks a year for many years. Was laid off 3 weeks after 9/11 and now fly privately and avoid all that crap. Wore an pilots uniform every time and got treated like doggy doo. After all, I am the Captain, and if I wanted to hijack the plane, its very easy from behind a locked door with a "not real sharp" copilot as we had at times.

This security BS is just that, whitewash to make the public feel better. If you want to get a bomb, gun or otherwise onboard there are many ways to do it, any aviation professional can tell you that.

The Israeli's know how to do security. Nothing gets past them...

JoeA

Drago · Drago's Garage

Why should they be done away with? People who fly 1st Class pay to fly 1st Class. If you don't pay for the extra service, get in the long line with everyone else. I choose to pay for the comfort and convience...but then again my legs go numb if I sit in coach seats.

stevepaa · 02:34 PM

Marc,
But do people in first class pay extra to have this shortcut? When you pay for first class you are paying for special service from the airline, not federal employees.

stevepaa · 03-30-2005, 02:33 PM

JoeA, agree with the whitewash stuff.
I used to work for the airlines years ago.
My brother in law still works the ramp and he comes on board sometimes to say goodbye.

island911 · 03-30-2005, 02:34 PM

I didn't know such fast-track lines existed.

Does the "1st class security-screening" mean full cavity search.

stevepaa · 03-30-2005, 02:35 PM

No, you go around everyone else to the front of a separate setup in many cases.

island911 · 03-30-2005, 02:40 PM

ah. so then the 1st classers get the same foot fungus as the rest of the bare-footed prolitariate passengers. .. who are getting their shoes scanned.

Maybe that will help do away with this STUPID screening.

Drago · Drago's Garage

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Originally posted by stevepaa
Marc,
But do people in first class pay extra to have this shortcut? When you pay for first class you are paying for special service from the airline, not federal employees.

You pay to board first...I guess I just see this as an extension of that.

I completely agree with Joe about the warm, comfy feeling the security is providing the masses.

juanbenae · 03-30-2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by island911
I didn't know such fast-track lines existed.

Does the "1st class security-screening" mean full cavity search.

looks like island will be ponying up for 1st class seats now!

island911 · 03-30-2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by Drago
You pay to board first...I guess I just see this as an extension of that.

I've never understood why any in first class would want to be on first. Is it a "Hey look at me .. ." thing? Or, do ya have to get there early , before all the good booze are gone?

Drago · Drago's Garage

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Originally posted by island911
I've never understood why any in first class would want to be on first. Is it a "Hey look at me .. ." thing? Or, do ya have to get there early , before all the good booze are gone?

It's much better getting on first, relax in your big comfy 1st Class seat and yes, start drinking the good stuff 'gratis.

It is most certainly not a "look at me" thing...that is unless it's an "I've never seen such a big fat ugly white boy" thing. That, I'm all over.

bryanthompson · bryanthompson's Garage

I hope to be one of those guys in the special line and getting on the plane early, so I hope they don't get rid of 'em. It's a convenience, they pay for it.

island911 · 03-30-2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by k911sc
looks like island will be ponying up for 1st class seats now!

nah, I found a cheap way. . .had a surgeon install a bunch of metal in my hip. Only $40k and now I get the "full service" search from the TSA, every time. --Whoa; watch that wand, buddy."

6 searchs in the last 3 months . . . the surgery is going to pay for itself in no time.

It is getting old though. They never write.

Drago · Drago's Garage

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Originally posted by island911
--Whoa; watch that wand, buddy."

6 searchs in the last 3 months . . . the surgery is going to pay for itself in no time.

It is getting old though. They never write.

Yeah, that's got to be a pain in the ass.

island911 · 03-30-2005, 03:07 PM

yeah, I keep threatening the TSA guys . .. tell'em I'm going to wear a just a speedo next time.

Hey Toby, can I borrow your thong/sling ?

mikester · 03-30-2005, 03:21 PM

Well, If the TSA is not paid for by the Airlines and are paid for out of my taxes then these lines should be one and only one for all citizens on the other hand if the airlines pay for them as part of ticket sales then 1st class can keep their line.

I do know that at LAX the TSA works with the local ticket counters regularly to expedite passengers who are in line and going to be late for a flight. It is immensly helpful to those people who for one reason or another end up in a long line. I've had it happen to me where I get there an hour and a half early but the line is around the block and to the next terminal (south worst and american to name names).

One thing I absolutely can't stand is when people cut into the line thinking that nobody notices. I was in line a few weeks ago and these two little asian ladies magically appeared behind me ( I had been talking to the woman behind me when I got in line so I knew they weren't there before). I turned around - was surprised to see them and said HEy - did you cut in line? Cause I know you were not there before. They pretended not to hear me so I called a TSA over and told on them (like the 3rd grader I am).

-Grin-

stevepaa · 03-30-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by bryanthompson
I hope to be one of those guys in the special line and getting on the plane early, so I hope they don't get rid of 'em. It's a convenience, they pay for it.

I can not find anyone who can substantiate that first class pay anything to TSA. Do you have a source?

Superman · 03-30-2005, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa

The Israeli's know how to do security. Nothing gets past them...

JoeA

I thought we'd have Israeli security experts on American soil by COB on 9/12/01. Not so I guess. Quite an efficient "administration" I've noticed.

Superman · 03-30-2005, 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by Drago
People who fly 1st Class pay to fly 1st Class.

Ah, capitalism. Kinda raises questions about what group is more equal than others. Life, they say, is like a ***** sandwich. The more bread you have, the less sht you eat.

And we can all reach the brass ring, or so goes the defense.