Please highlight where it says Plame had the authority to send her husband to Niger.

You can't.

She didn't.

And what is this smokescreen, anyway? It was your boys who blew it by exposing an active CIA operative.

You can throw in all kinds of other miscellaneous charges and controversies, but it doesn't obscure the fact that an anti-American act was performed by someone on the White House staff for purely political payback to a guy telling the truth.

And most everyone sees through it.

lol:D


And the "payback" was? Making her famous and selling his books? Try again...

Joel, who cares about the motive or payback.

Rove outed Plame, doesn't matter why, he did, knowingly or unknowing, still doesn't change the fact that he outed her. OK, end of story.

let's move on. We'll get some new info within a week.

I'm more interested in what Duncan Hunter has to say about China's bid on Unocal. You may want to check your status as Republican, indeed an American, if you don't agree with the man.

Rove was King of the US...the King has fallen. Look for the GOP to regroup and spin some serious damage control when this finally hits.

When the damage finally hits? Just look at how all the dittoheads and bush-war lovers are already in full spin mode right here on the BBS.

They will probably soon be questioning whether wilson and his wife are wearing clean underwear as if it somehow detracts from their boy rove's treasonous acts.

What delusion.

People who want to become famous usually don't work for the CIA.

What Wilson did was try to head off a wrongheaded war and save thousands of American lives. Nothing he did up to the point where his wife's safety was compromised was for personal gain. But it doesn't trouble me that after being fired as a 'whistleblower' he wrote a book. After all, he can hardly count on social security income.

The rabid right radio entertainers, following their scripts, give not a thought to all of the other people whose lives were put in jeopardy by 'outing' Plame. They are just 'collateral damage.' I mean, it's not as if doing damage to national security for political payback is as serious as getting oral sex, now, is it?

His wife hadn't been in the field for over 5 years, was someone in the CIA headquarters after her, maybe she spit when she should have swallowed. Wilson is nothing more that a bitter loser who is pissed because he was over looked.

Why is it that anyone even remotely associated with the administration who says something negative is "a disgruntled employee"? Can they ALL be disgruntled employees? Is it possible there is a small bit of truth SOMEWHERE in the disagreements?

Just wondering....There is no such thing as truth..it is all opinion...

Because Edwards had his face so firmly planted between Cheney's butt cheeks that his face was barely recognizable. I saw the video too.

Interesting. So now, you're an expert on the workings of the CIA?

And it's okay to expose a CIA agent if you don't agree with someone in their family?

And it's irrelvant to you that everyone else in the "cover company" that supposedly employed her was simultaneously exposed? How many people's lives were put in jeopardy? Do you care?

I hope there's someone, somewhere in the Republican party with a sense of ethics, because I haven't seen one on this BBS.

Because a happy employee...like most of the administration, does not say bad things about their employer.

Wilson's career was over . The Bush administration was not about to make the Clinton holdover the ambassador to anywhere. He knew the only way back to prominence was to get a liberal back into power....so he chose to lie. He was probably like most liberals and figured he was right, so making up actual proof was fair (like forging desertion papers on Bush).

If they are not covert....it is not exposure.

But she was covert. You should get your facts straight before you attempt to be so opinionated about a subject, but that has never stopped you before.

Was she covert? I thought she hadn't been working in the field in the last 5 years... isn't that what the law says covert means?

Sheesh 150, if someone like you knows what she was doing for the last 5 years...how could she possibly be covert? Maybe you outed her.

Opinionated is what this BB is all about...

Unfortunately, Washington pays no attention to us or to our solutions to their problems..

True Bob, and people are certainly entitled to their own opinions. Unfortunately, they feel entitled to their own facts as well.

This Rove issue is a great vehicle for the Bush haters to vent their ignorance in public again. Even though the Kerry election campaign discarded Wilson as an adviser after the Senate's bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee cited the note Plame sent in for her husband the Dem's push for the "special prosecutor", and Bush's weakness during the election to allow it, the Rove bashing is attempting to side track another Dem anti-everything screw up. Now we have a special prosecutor that may likely to go after more reporters and hold them in contempt for not disclosing their sources. Even though no Rove crime was at issue it's big name recognition time for spec prosecutor Pat Fitzgerald and Unintended Consequences has shown its ugly head in politics again. It seems again like the DNC needs a remaping on winning elections.

lol, do tell:)

The sudden experts are hillarious. Why don't you start with the definition of covert and work from there.

This is really a tough one. From a factual perspective, I've been able to find from 2003, before the hype, spin and newly developed facts created from opinion, the following:

Novak said Monday on CNN's "Crossfire" that he learned Plame's identity from two senior Bush administration officials in the course of researching an article about Wilson.

Sources told CNN that Plame works in the CIA's Directorate of Operations -- the part of the agency in charge of spying -- and worked in the field for many years as an undercover officer. "If she were only an analyst, not an operative, we would not have filed a crimes report" with the Justice Department, a senior intelligence official said.

MSNBC reports that CIA lawyers are "affirming that the woman's identity was classified."

The White House email notifying staffers of the Justice Department investigation characterized it as "an investigation into possible unauthorized disclosures concerning the identity of an undercover CIA employee."



Here's the actual U.S. Code under discussion:

TITLE 50 > CHAPTER 15 > SUBCHAPTER IV > § 421
§ 421. Protection of identities of certain United States undercover intelligence officers, agents, informants, and sources

Release date: 2005-03-17

(a) Disclosure of information by persons having or having had access to classified information that identifies covert agent Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent’s intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

(b) Disclosure of information by persons who learn identity of covert agents as result of having access to classified information Whoever, as a result of having authorized access to classified information, learns the identify of a covert agent and intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent’s intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

(c) Disclosure of information by persons in course of pattern of activities intended to identify and expose covert agents Whoever, in the course of a pattern of activities intended to identify and expose covert agents and with reason to believe that such activities would impair or impede the foreign intelligence activities of the United States, discloses any information that identifies an individual as a covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such individual and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such individual’s classified intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(d) Imposition of consecutive sentences A term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be consecutive to any other sentence of imprisonment.