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More London Blasts

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LONDON - Explosions struck three London Underground stations and a bus at midday Thursday in a chilling but less deadly replay of the suicide bombings that killed 56 people two weeks ago.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/britain_underground

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Old 07-21-2005, 06:22 AM
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Yeah, but this time they fizzled. Second string terrorists? Copycats? Muslim schoolboy prank? I guess we'll have to wait to find out.

I certainly hope that the British authorities respect the would-be-bombers rights during the interrogations.
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That's terrible news.

I'm so sorry for people who have to live with that threat.
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We just flew back from London last night, my son is at oxford. Stayed out of the tubes, but used buses all about. Yes I thought of the prior bombings, but enjoyed my first visit to that wonderful city. When I heard the news this morning it made my skin crawl, as I walked in these areas less than 24hrs ago. I fear for their lives, and their way of life. The US is next. Scary, scary thought.
My prayers go to all involved.
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That's terrible news.

I'm so sorry for people who have to live with that threat.
You don't consider yourself one of them? I do. It doesn't impact my way of life, but the threat is there and becoming more real by the day, IMO
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:26 AM
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like i said in a previous post, how long are people/country's, going to allow these terrorists to walk freely around, make their plans, and then execute them? how many more times are we going to see this type of thing happening in britain, and i guess, eventually, in america?
i'm fed up with people crying "what about human rights" i dont hear too many people asking about the human rights of the people who were killed in the london blasts. and yes, 700 people injured. why cant the authorities be honest about this.
the sooner the u.k drops its ideas about national identity cards for everyone, and just targets people from arabic countrys/ known terrorist supporting countrys, the better. if you are living in the country, and have no links to any suspect organization, then you should be left alone. however, if you have some unsavoury things going on, then no questions, instant deportation, along with any other persons with whom you have contact with.
i'll be damned if i ever give up my way of life, and have my childrens way of life altered, by these pariah dogs!
thats why i enlisted in the navy, and was proud to serve in gulf war #1.
live and let live, is a great saying, sadly, its just not plausible in this day and age. personally, i dont think the polititians have the will, or the guts to really do something positive about the situation.
i expect if things continue, then knowing the british spirit, you will see a lot of unfortunate incidents, happening to people both innocent and not so. its already happening, just not reported by cnn, but locally in the u.k.
canada is full of known terrorists/groups. only 2 weeks ago, they allowed 4 known terrorists into canada, because they had citizenship here! i guess they promised not to make bombs, so that was ok!
bizarre, to say the least.
final rant. here in windsor, south west ontario, there is the ambassador bridge {seen in eminem's video 8 mile} that links windsor to detroit. it is the busiest crossing between usa, and canada, and accounts for a tremendous amount of traffic, and business. my god, they caught a guy filming the bridge, especially around the support structures, and the like. no shots of the actual bridge, per se, just supporting structures, and he also had film of the tunnel that connects the two citys. they let him go, after a campaign about human rights. anyone living in this part of the country, detroit, or windsor, knows exactly how much that bridge, and tunnel are worth when it comes to the economy, and jobs of this area. if this is not a major target for a terrorist group, i'll take to reading the koran, and practice jihad on any infidel!
my god, how stupid/naive are the forces. a full investigation of this person was really needed, but once again, apparently you can play the "human rights card"
call me what you will, i know that as things stand, it will only get worse.
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What 'threat?'

Seriously the chances of being involved are very small... an additional risk to the very real every day dangers of living in London....

Yes I take the tube everyday... thro Warren Street twice a day and thro Green Park etc etc...do I consider the threat to be one... sadly no.

The very real dangers that present themselves are far more worrying.. the stairs, the crowded escalators, platforms, muggers pick pockets and others come far higher up the list.

Added to which crossing the road in London is more dangerous.

We have lived with this 'threat' for so long now that it has to be taken in our stride. First the troubles in Northern Ireland being exported to London, mind you thay had the manners to warn before they blew (!) rather than getting on with it, now this...it is part of our daily lives.

To curb our lives is to acknowledge the threat. To carry on, to take the tube, the bus, to go out to live as we want to is to 'honour the threat' as fighter pilots say...you turn in and get on with it....and that means people, not soldiers, not the government each living their lives as they want to without letting these people see that they are having and effect.

The issue with these attacks is that they apeear to be carried out by UK citizens, who have every right to be here, and have every reason, thro family links to be in other nations whose view of the world may be different.

Seriously, imagine the trouble a nation ould have if it tracked and checked every citizen from its largest visibly identifiable non native group.....are you going to start following and tracking all the Mexican/ Afro Carribean people in the US. Of course not....
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weren't we just talking about islamic leadership? Real stand-up guys. Way to prove to the world that your religion doesn't stand for violance and killing infidels. Does this guy qualify as a terrorist? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/22/AR2005072200709_pf.html)
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LONDON (Reuters) - Militant Islamists will continue to attack Britain until the government pulls its troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, one of the country's most outspoken Islamic clerics said on Friday.

Speaking 15 days after bombers killed over 50 people in London and a day after a series of failed attacks on the city's transport network, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed said the British capital should expect more violence.

"What happened yesterday confirmed that as long as the cause and the root problem is still there ... we will see the same effect we saw on July 7," Bakri said.
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Bakri, a Syrian-born cleric who has been vilified in Britain since 2001 when he praised the September 11 hijackers, said he did not believe the bombings and attempted attacks on London were carried out by British Muslims.

He condemned the killing of all innocent civilians but described attacks on British and U.S. troops in Muslim countries as "pro-life" and justified.

In an interview with Reuters, Bakri described Osama bin Laden, leader of the radical Islamist network al Qaeda, as "a sincere man who fights against evil forces."

Bakri said he would like Britain to become an Islamic state but feared he would be deported before his dream was realized.

"I would like to see the Islamic flag fly, not only over number 10 Downing Street, but over the whole world," he said.
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"I condemn any killing and any bombing against any innocent people in Britain or abroad, but I expect the British people to condemn the killing of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan."
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Old 07-22-2005, 03:58 PM
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Yikes- what a wack-job!
http://www.memri.de/uebersetzungen_analysen/themen/islamistische_ideologie/isl_bakri_24_10_01.pdf

And the British Government are (or at least were) paying him benefits to live there.
The guy sounds like Bin Laden's right-hand man!
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Heh, absurdity knows no bounds. Just skimming through that PDF and came upon this:
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Bakri also called for the death of playwright Terence McNally for portraying Jesus Christ, considered
by Islam to be a prophet, as a homosexual in his play Corpus Christi.[32] Bakri also reportedly urged
all homosexuals to throw themselves from Big Ben.[33] In response, the Lesbian Avengers and
Outrage, two London-based gay-rights groups, held a mock trial for Bakri, issuing a "Queer Fatwa"
that read: "Omar Bakri Muhammad is hereby sentenced to 1,000 years of relentless sodomitical
torment."[34]
ubiq, where'd you find that anyway? I wonder if they have something like this on all of these guys.
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Just googled the name. Seems to be from 'Middle East Media Research Institute'.

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