Why do terrorists attack the U.S.?

Shaun @ Tru6 · 09-19-2005, 07:37 AM

Is it our Freedom as bush says? Is it our presence in their "homeland?" is it our economic policies? foreign policy?

What? Why?

skipdup · 09-19-2005, 07:38 AM

It's our Freedom.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 09-19-2005, 07:41 AM

EDIT: If you are going to provide a reason, please back it up with logic, a story, news accounts, facts, historical data...

skipdup · 09-19-2005, 07:52 AM

Shaun- A person could write many books on this topic. Personally, I don't know how to condense it.

- Skip

masraum · 09-19-2005, 07:55 AM

I think there are several reasons. Part of it is that we are mucking around in their part of the world which they hate, but I think the other part is because we are on top, and the guy on top is always a target for everyone else. I think those are the 2 main reasons.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 09-19-2005, 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by skipdup
Shaun- A person could write many books on this topic. Personally, I don't know how to condense it.

- Skip

well, "Freedom" ain't going to cut it Skip

we'll be here all day, take a stab at it.

skipdup · 09-19-2005, 08:03 AM

No. I'm serious. In this instance, I just don't know how to do it.

I know it may seem strange, or that I'm avoiding the tough question, but this is a very broad question. If I'd known I had to write a complete thesis, I wouldn't have answered.

- Skip

RickM · RickM's Garage

Many of the reasons you give likely contribute to their hatred of us.

I believe one reason is that they don't want to see their women liberated. At most women are considered lower tiered beings.
Another is the fact that we are considered infidels...worse yet we are physically trespassing on their space.

In their eyes we are forcing our plague onto them on many fronts.

bryanthompson · bryanthompson's Garage

Skip, Shaun's (and the rest of the liberals') bent version of 'logic' focuses on one point: The U.S. is the source of all problems in the world.

They have been attacking us far longer than 9/11. Their radical hijacking of a religion tells them to kill all infidels. Our culture accepts people of all religions and beliefs. They hate infidels, we accept everyone. They don't like that, and they want to destroy us for it--shaun will refuse to believe this, as it doesn't fit into his narrow definition of 'logic.'

The terrorists are now in iraq because they understand what a peaceful Iraq would mean to their way of life, and they are doing everything they can to stop it. The terrorists are coming from other countries in the area to Iraq, where we then promptly arrange a meeting between them and their Allah. If Iraq becomes stable and peaceful, with freedom and democracy, they fear it will spread to other countries in the region. Again, freedom accepts infidels. They want to kill infidels.

BlueSkyJaunte · 09-19-2005, 08:19 AM

I thought they were just after Shaun!

motion · 09-19-2005, 08:20 AM

MTV

tabs · 09-19-2005, 08:23 AM

Because they LIKE us.....

bryanthompson · bryanthompson's Garage

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Originally posted by BlueSkyJaunte
I thought they were just after Shaun!

You'll have to explain your logic there... I don't see what they'd gain by attacking an ally.

IROC · IROC's Garage

I started a thread a couple of months ago where I essentially asked this same question. Mine was worded more towards asking what the ultimate goal of terrorism is, but these two questions are now intertwined.

When you really sit down and think about this, it is not a simple answer. Of course, that makes the solution that much harder. I don't think we are even close to understanding why they want to attack us, let alone coming up with a solution. Bush's "War on Terror" does not seem to be the right solution...

Mike

stevepaa · 09-19-2005, 08:32 AM

I think "freedom and democracy" are not really the issue. I think it is western culture which comes with the brand of "freedom and democracy" that we are attempting to establish.

skipdup · 09-19-2005, 08:34 AM

Mike- I honestly believe you can answer these questions as simply or as complexly as you wish. And either can be right.

Obviously, I gave the simple answer above.

I think the solution can be the same way (both simple & complex). The simple solution is, you fight it - you don't compromise, reason or negotiate - you kill it - the best way you can.

- Skip

Shaun @ Tru6 · 09-19-2005, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by bryanthompson
You'll have to explain your logic there... I don't see what they'd gain by attacking an ally.

Bryan, I guess you haven't heard, the Navy says that the bush admin is aiding and abetting terrorists given the DHS's poor effort in disaster relief. And don't attack me, this is THE NAVY saying this.

Oh, and common sense also dictates that the bush admin is enboldening terrorists. How you say?

well, the guy that killed 3000 Americans 4 years ago is still FREE. He's not dead. He's not in jail. He's out in the world sending out quarterly video news releases.

What more encouragement could a would-be terrorist need? Kill Americanss and at best you are described as "marginalized." Funny, I don't recall "marginalization" as one of this things bush said was his goal after 9/11.

I do recall bush saying he doesn't think about OBL anymore.

That's got to enbolden terrorists.

M.D. Holloway · 09-19-2005, 08:45 AM

In life, you need something to love and you need something to hate. It just so happens that the US fits the bill on both fronts to mutually different cultures.

When was the last time a country, any country didn't have an issue with another country? It gets worse the more passionate and religious the country.

Every coin has two sides, for every up there is down - love needs hate to define it self as does black needing white to establish the contrast. The devil needs God, God needs the devil. Without the di-pole moment it is zen and people aren't built that tight to handle it. The ruling powers (ecomonic, religious and political) know this. Without the opposing position your position weakens and becomes extinct.

That is your answer.

jorian · 09-19-2005, 08:48 AM

Foreign policy

Shaun @ Tru6 · 09-19-2005, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
Skip, Shaun's (and the rest of the liberals') bent version of 'logic' focuses on one point: The U.S. is the source of all problems in the world.

They have been attacking us far longer than 9/11. Their radical hijacking of a religion tells them to kill all infidels. Our culture accepts people of all religions and beliefs. They hate infidels, we accept everyone. They don't like that, and they want to destroy us for it--shaun will refuse to believe this, as it doesn't fit into his narrow definition of 'logic.'

The terrorists are now in iraq because they understand what a peaceful Iraq would mean to their way of life, and they are doing everything they can to stop it. The terrorists are coming from other countries in the area to Iraq, where we then promptly arrange a meeting between them and their Allah. If Iraq becomes stable and peaceful, with freedom and democracy, they fear it will spread to other countries in the region. Again, freedom accepts infidels. They want to kill infidels.

Bryan, your statement here lacks supporting evidence. You would need terrorists attacking Canada, Sweden, etc. for your argument to hold true.

when are you going to start attacking the Navy for saying the admin enboldens terrorists?