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Joe Bob 10-05-2005 06:24 PM

So...why would anyone who does a crime use an automatic?
 
So...I read too much...sue me, but why would any moron use an automatic and solid shot?

Shells eject, evidence.....solid shot, even deformed by hitting flesh, skipping off bone or whatever, they can still be traced back to the weapon with a percentage of certainty.....

Wheel guns with hydrashocks, blue tips, glazers etc.....how come you don't hear about them more often?

Rot 911 10-05-2005 06:30 PM

price and availability

pwd72s 10-05-2005 06:59 PM

You assume badasses, like gang bangers, are smart???? Gimme a break.

Joeaksa 10-05-2005 07:14 PM

The pros use a .22 auto with a silencer. One shell pops out and its picked up.

A wheel gun makes more noise due to the space between the cylinder and barrel, thats why they use an auto. The only place you will see a wheel gun with a silencer is in the movies.

JoeA

Howard Agency 10-05-2005 07:20 PM

I prefer the Colt Woodsman smooth bore with muffler and casing catcher.

Quote:

Originally posted by Joeaksa
The pros use a .22 auto with a silencer. One shell pops out and its picked up.
JoeA


competentone 10-05-2005 07:28 PM

If the firearm is not traceable to you and you ditch it after your crime, why would you care about a traceable bullet or shell casing?

pwd72s 10-05-2005 07:35 PM

Next up...who says that if it's murder on your mind, that the weapon of choice has to be a firearm?

HardDrive 10-05-2005 08:19 PM

A real man uses a trebuchet.

Joeaksa 10-05-2005 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardDrive
A real man uses a trebuchet.
Effective but a bit easier to trace. As well this is a real "crew served" weapon so the number of mouths to talk is rather large.

JoeA

84porsche 10-05-2005 10:49 PM

Because they just don't give a crap. Some criminals who stragically plan out a crime will not and these are people that are still out there. They don't get caught and they don't want to get caught which means no evidence and sometimes no witnesses. But someone that wants to rob a grocery/liquor store at closing just for some quick cash will. These type of people IMO don't care about the consequences, they don't care who they hurt or why.

nostatic 10-05-2005 11:59 PM

icicle

tabs 10-06-2005 02:12 AM

Re: So...why would anyone who does a crime use an automatic?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mikez
why would any moron use an automatic

Because it is better than using a manual.

And Joe it's the 22 Short that was the prefered choich for wet work...a shot right behing the ear....the 22 Short doesn't have enough velocity to exit the skull so it just richochets around.

TerryBPP 10-06-2005 04:44 AM

If the gun is stolen ("hot"), what do you care if they trace the shells back to the gun.

As far as bullet preference, if you put 2 in their head it doesn't matter if they are made of pencil erasers.

targa911S 10-06-2005 05:11 AM

The "pros" use a "drop gun" .22 or .25 taped up. They shoot and drop the gun at the scene.

smoak 10-06-2005 05:47 AM

speaking of pro's... Has anyone seen that HBO documentary where the famous criminal psych guy Park Dietz interviews that hitman guy called the Iceman?

I am telling you, that Iceman guy is freakin one scary dude. He talked for 60 mintues about killing people and each time you thought maybe this guy was just bragging, they would show the newspaper article covering the hit. If you haven't seen it, you can find it on the HBO OnDemand thing, under documentaries.

TerryBPP 10-06-2005 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by targa911S
The "pros" use a "drop gun" .22 or .25 taped up. They shoot and drop the gun at the scene.
Tape and rubberbands dont work anymore. There is a way to pull prints from these materials now. Gotta wear gloves.

Z-man 10-06-2005 07:02 AM

My Subaru is an automatic. Does that make me a criminal? :eek:

-Z-man.

chibone_914 10-06-2005 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardDrive
A real man uses a trebuchet.
They make hand-held trebuchets??? LOL!

Joeaksa 10-06-2005 10:12 AM

Re: Re: So...why would anyone who does a crime use an automatic?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tabs
Because it is better than using a manual.

And Joe it's the 22 Short that was the prefered choich for wet work...a shot right behing the ear....the 22 Short doesn't have enough velocity to exit the skull so it just richochets around.

Actually its the .22 subsonic. Less noise and yes, it does not exit.

The icicle is a good alternative. After it melts there aint much to identify.

Joe A

Joe Bob 10-06-2005 10:15 AM

trebuchet...cute. Seige weapons in a drive by....doan think that'll work.

BTW...most .22 short, handguns I have ever seen.....that are autos.....are jamming nightmares. Not something I would like to have happen while doing wet work.


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