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So...why would anyone who does a crime use an automatic?

So...I read too much...sue me, but why would any moron use an automatic and solid shot?

Shells eject, evidence.....solid shot, even deformed by hitting flesh, skipping off bone or whatever, they can still be traced back to the weapon with a percentage of certainty.....

Wheel guns with hydrashocks, blue tips, glazers etc.....how come you don't hear about them more often?

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You assume badasses, like gang bangers, are smart???? Gimme a break.
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The pros use a .22 auto with a silencer. One shell pops out and its picked up.

A wheel gun makes more noise due to the space between the cylinder and barrel, thats why they use an auto. The only place you will see a wheel gun with a silencer is in the movies.

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The pros use a .22 auto with a silencer. One shell pops out and its picked up.
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If the firearm is not traceable to you and you ditch it after your crime, why would you care about a traceable bullet or shell casing?
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Next up...who says that if it's murder on your mind, that the weapon of choice has to be a firearm?
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Effective but a bit easier to trace. As well this is a real "crew served" weapon so the number of mouths to talk is rather large.

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Because they just don't give a crap. Some criminals who stragically plan out a crime will not and these are people that are still out there. They don't get caught and they don't want to get caught which means no evidence and sometimes no witnesses. But someone that wants to rob a grocery/liquor store at closing just for some quick cash will. These type of people IMO don't care about the consequences, they don't care who they hurt or why.
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Re: So...why would anyone who does a crime use an automatic?

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why would any moron use an automatic
Because it is better than using a manual.

And Joe it's the 22 Short that was the prefered choich for wet work...a shot right behing the ear....the 22 Short doesn't have enough velocity to exit the skull so it just richochets around.
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If the gun is stolen ("hot"), what do you care if they trace the shells back to the gun.

As far as bullet preference, if you put 2 in their head it doesn't matter if they are made of pencil erasers.
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The "pros" use a "drop gun" .22 or .25 taped up. They shoot and drop the gun at the scene.
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speaking of pro's... Has anyone seen that HBO documentary where the famous criminal psych guy Park Dietz interviews that hitman guy called the Iceman?

I am telling you, that Iceman guy is freakin one scary dude. He talked for 60 mintues about killing people and each time you thought maybe this guy was just bragging, they would show the newspaper article covering the hit. If you haven't seen it, you can find it on the HBO OnDemand thing, under documentaries.
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The "pros" use a "drop gun" .22 or .25 taped up. They shoot and drop the gun at the scene.
Tape and rubberbands dont work anymore. There is a way to pull prints from these materials now. Gotta wear gloves.
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My Subaru is an automatic. Does that make me a criminal?

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A real man uses a trebuchet.
They make hand-held trebuchets??? LOL!
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Re: Re: So...why would anyone who does a crime use an automatic?

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Because it is better than using a manual.

And Joe it's the 22 Short that was the prefered choich for wet work...a shot right behing the ear....the 22 Short doesn't have enough velocity to exit the skull so it just richochets around.
Actually its the .22 subsonic. Less noise and yes, it does not exit.

The icicle is a good alternative. After it melts there aint much to identify.

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trebuchet...cute. Seige weapons in a drive by....doan think that'll work.

BTW...most .22 short, handguns I have ever seen.....that are autos.....are jamming nightmares. Not something I would like to have happen while doing wet work.

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