Good Morning Tookie.........

[KevinP73]

Tookie????? Hey no Tookie............














I wonder if Hell is everything he thought it would be?

[KevinP73]

snif....snif.....Do you smell something burning?

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Williams was condemned in 1981 for gunning down convenience store clerk Albert Owens, 26, at a 7-Eleven in Whittier and killing Yen-I Yang, 76, Tsai-Shai Chen Yang, 63, and the couple's daughter Yu-Chin Yang Lin, 43, at the Los Angeles motel they owned. Williams claimed he was innocent.

Witnesses at the trial said he boasted about the killings, stating "You should have heard the way he sounded when I shot him."

Williams then made a growling noise and laughed for five to six minutes, according to the transcript that the governor referenced in his denial of clemency.

About 1,000 death penalty opponents and a few death penalty supporters gathered outside the prison to await the execution. Singer Joan Baez, M*A*S*H actor Mike Farrell and the Rev. Jesse Jackson were among the celebrities who protested the execution.

"Tonight is planned, efficient, calculated, antiseptic, cold-blooded murder and I think everyone who is here is here to try to enlist the morality and soul of this country," said Baez, who sang "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" on a small plywood stage set up just outside the gates.

My god what is the matter with people like Baez, who seem to have infinite "compassion" for the most evil scum among us, and apparently don't give a ***** about the victims and their families...

[RallyJon]

I have one important question:

Did Sean Penn bring his own camera crew again to make sure the light was just right?

[Zeke]

I tuned in this morning expecting 20 pages of OT on Williams. Where is it?

The only thing I have to say is if they can't get the job done for over 20 years (I know it's longer, just don't know how much), then why bother?
I say 5 years of automatic appeals, etc., and do the job or forget it.

Now, I lock and load, and wait the day out inside my house. Terrifying riots are a possibility today.

[cashflyer]

The Exodus viewpoint:
"...thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."

or

The Ghandi viewpoint:
"An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, and the whole world would soon be blind and toothless."


And then there's my viewpoint:
He was tried and found guilty by a jury of his peers, and duly sentenced in accordance with the laws of the land.

Ignoring the "political suicide" comments of the media, if the Governator had intervened then every deathrow inmate would be writing childrens books then screaming for clemency.

IMO, Prison was never meant to be a rehab program. It was meant to be a place where convicts repay a debt to society. Tookie's debt is now paid.

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The Ghandi viewpoint:
"An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, and the whole world would soon be blind and toothless."

This perfectly sums up what it means to be a complete moral relativist. We're all essentially equivalently evil, so there is no point in confronting evil. Ghandi was a moral idiot.

cashflyer: I agree with your viewpoint...

[Par911]

Originally posted by aways
The Ghandi viewpoint:
"An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, and the whole world would soon be blind and toothless."

This perfectly sums up what it means to be a complete moral relativist. We're all essentially equivalently evil, so there is no point in confronting evil. Ghandi was a moral idiot.

That's like saying Martin Luther King Jr., was moral idiot, what does that mean . Save the philosophical babble for someone who cares....

[onewhippedpuppy]

Couldn't they have taken care of Jessie while they were at it? Kind of a two for one special? That man has caused more trouble, and probably been indirectly the cause of more riots than anyone on earth. If people like him hadn't showed up this would have been a mere fact that scrolled across the bottom of the TV screen, but now we're talking about potential violence. Has the man ever actually done any good in this world?

[island911]

Originally posted by cashflyer
The Ghandi viewpoint:
"An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, and the whole world would soon be blind and toothless."

That misses the mark here. For example, we, as a society, don't try to eradicate small-pox, because we want to have 'pay-back'! . .. we strive to eradicate any indiferrent killers out there.

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Originally posted by Par911
That's like saying Martin Luther King Jr., was moral idiot, what does that mean . Save the philosophical babble for someone who cares....

I'll save it for someone with a clue. I don't think MLK was a moral relativist, but thanks for your brilliant attempt at an analogy.

If Ghandi had been opposing a truely evil regime, like the Nazis or the khmer rouge rather than Britian, his pacifism would have gotten him nowhere. Luckily for him, he wasn't.
I suppose you would have prefered to have Ghandi as prime minister of England instead of Churchill in 1940...? Right?

[nostatic]

Originally posted by Zeke

Now, I lock and load, and wait the day out inside my house. Terrifying riots are a possibility today.

well, maybe its just coincidence. I'm going to the range at noon today so I have the Sig with me in my back pack. I brought 250 rounds for the range, and the UPS man was nice enough to leave me a package yesterday here at work:



I think I'll be ok. I don't see any reports of any unrest though...

[Kevin Taylor]

Not even a stale cookie for tookie in the end.
Good Riddance....

K.T.
1973 911 E 2.4 MFI
1983 911 SC
1965 DEVIN "D" - 1967 912 POWER PLANT

[Zeke]

If people like him hadn't showed up (Jackson) this would have been a mere fact that scrolled across the bottom of the TV screen...

I guess all the European journalists here to witness this spectacle are notwithstanding.

Oh, I'm not just picking on Whipped, the rest of the usuals will eventually show up and show their ass. Don't take this to think you know where I stand on the Williams thing, you don't.

I'll be amused all day by this thread as I avoid (hopefully needlessly) the streets today.

[onewhippedpuppy]

But the real question is, if JJ and friends hadn't showed up and started protesting and talking riot, would the press have given it the same attention? Bad news in America sells just as well overseas, probably better actually, since nobody likes us.

[pwd72s]

Now that it's over, this story will die almost as quickly as Tookie did.

[Jeff Higgins]

Tookie who?

[dd74]

No more nookie for Tookie...

[legion]

I like oatmeal raisin tookies....otay?

[island911]

Who's raising tookie?