Telepathy - the strangest (yet great) thing happened, don't know what to make of it.
 

The following incident happened and I have not been able to shake it.

The other night, our 6yr old found his way into our bed at around midnight. This happens almost everynight between 11 and 5am. I know, some will be OK others will say it isn't...what ever. Anyway, I'm wide awake staring at the clock and thinking while my wife and son are sawing logs. I sometimes will think of the various things I want to tell the kids - I don't know why I do this but I do. Well sometimes I play out what they will say and then how I will respond. In my mind I was telling the Boy something and I thought to myself "Just listen lil buddy and trust me". Right after I thought that my son woke up and said "Dad, I am listening!". I was surprised to say the least. My wife woke up at this (he said it rather loudly). I asked him, "Max, did you hear me say something or did you think I said something?" "Dad, I heard you say it in my head now go back to sleep".

Needless to say I have been trying to keep semi-pure thoughts! What do you make of it? Has anything like that evevr happened to any of you?

Mike,

I have been told that most if not all people are able to do things that we do not totally understand. As well most people are said to be psychic at one point or another in life. I was into this a bit when in college as well as until about 30 or so, then too damm busy with life and work.

What I was told is that almost everyone has this ability but most are either afraid of it or do not want to or cannot handle it. I doubted what they said then they did a small experiment and proved it to me. Needless to say it was interesting. Have not fiddled with it since but the possibilities are endless. I do not like to talk about it much as others are skeptical about it or just plain do not believe it. Do not need the hassle so why discuss it.

Several times a month I find myself sitting with someone and planning out my next move, usually in the cockpit of the plane, when suddenly they say the exact thing that I am thinking. Its happened far too many times for it to be chance. Whether I am pulling in a thought from them or vice versa, who knows.

Regarding your son, he is small and knows nothing but that he picked up something from Dad. Would do some reading on it if you are interested. There is lots out there if you want to learn more...

Joe A

PS regarding the "semi pure" thoughts, its not worked with getting the girls to bring me a beer or other more interesting activities yet so good luck!

Do you talk to yourself at work? If so, you might have been mumbling it under your breath and not reallized it. Your kid was mildly awake and heard it.

If not, next stop, Regis!

If you can pull this off in front of James Randi, he'll give you a million bucks. His money has been safe so far.

I don't think there's ever been a scientifically-verified instance of actual psychic ability. Maybe you're the first? :>)

Mike

Mike,
That is a really neat happening. You might be able to encourage and nurture this, but help him learn how to shut it off. Most people's thoughts are not something you want him to know.
Some people are far more 'tuned in' than others. There is a certain level of awareness in my family. One of my brothers-in-law refers to my sister as "The Witch", because of her ability to know things about people.
My son is particularly sensitive to what those around him are thinking. His teenage years were almost painful, until he learned to filter out the 'noise' of the school body around him. He used to refer to my thoughts as "a constant buzz" and found it quite annoying until he learned to filter.
My wife's sensitivity seems to be more 'tuned' to animals.
Aside from a tendancy to predict the sex of unborn children in people I know, (13 out of 14 correct. When I heard of the pregnancy, the 'proper' guess was the first thought that came. If I tried to think about it, I would get it wrong.) I tend not to pay much attention.
Les

Teach him to play Texas Holdem.

I believe that people are capable of much more than they realize, but I believe that more than likely TerryBPP was right and you mumbled something.

I often "rehearse" conversations, etc in my head like you. My wife does too, but she does it outloud, half of the time not even realizing that it's outloud. My guess is that you did the same.

Re: Telepathy - the strangest (yet great) thing happened, don't know what to make of it.
 

Wow! Nearly the same exact thing happened with my daughter at the same age. She's eight now and it only happened once. I do believe she was listening to my thoughts.

It seems to me that our species' funny talent of speaking has some interesting implications. For example, we subvocalize when rehearsing a conversation (or in my case early in the morning when my 'filter' is turned off). But where does this subvocalization stop? Is it only in one or more parts of the brain that deals with verbal ability, or is there a latent signal that gets sent to the larynx?

Personally, I think that strong subvocalizations can be heard by someone who doesn't know not to tune them out, or when in a very quiet room. A six-year-old in a bedroom late at night is a perfect recipe for this.

Thought is a sequence of electrical firings that occur in your brain. I don't believe they can transport through air and reassimilate in another person. And, in all of modern history, science has never witnessed nor proven such an occurance. As much as I'd like to believe it can happen, I don't think it can.

hmmm... seems that if you play-out what will be said,and how, that then likely Max is genetically predisposed to do the same.

. . ..tho' perhaps Max (esp when sleepy) isn't doing such a good job of separating-out the play-out from reality. (?) --add a adash of coincidental timing, and....

I have to agree totally. Call me a skeptic (because I am), but just like alien abductions, et al, there is no evidence that this phenomenon actually occurs.

If someone out there *has* evidence or can prove psychic powers, I would suggest submitting to some sort of testing as you'll be a millionaire many times over if you can pull it off.

Mike

I'm not saying that it didn't happen, I think that sort of thing may be possible, but I doubt it did. Pretty cool either way.

In the mystical world of OBL, he warned his followers to be careful, or their enemies (us) would see their plots in our dreams..

I knew your were going to say that....

Please do not think I am getting down on you, because I am not. I was told by the people who worked with me that most people felt as noted above and that was why most people would not ever be receptive to this idea.

Its worked for me in the past. Who knows about the future. Not interested in proving it or making a dime on it, just that its interesting.

Talking about the electrical firings in our brains... its said that we use about 10% of our brain power right now. What if we could increase it to 15% or even 20%? Think of what we could do in this world? Wonder if you would burn out early?

Who knows, I think that its time to hit the rack shortly!

Joea

This is actually an "urban legend". We use 100% of our brains.

Mike

i think you were in that "zone" right before you actually fall asleep. you can feel perfectly awake, but you are dozing. i bet you actually said it outloud. now if your child was still in the other room and you thought it, and he heard it, you guys need to work out a gig ripping off casinos.

I had to really go after Wayne and Lubby recently on the "Subjective"..I practically had to twist their arms to get my point across...and NOW!!!! Look at this Thread.

Oh well there really isn't anything magical about this...like Joe says man just doesn't pay attention to all his senses...

Remember Man at one time lived iwith nature where he had to pay attention to ALL his senses including his Intutive ones to survive.. When man became Civilized and started living in artifical caves called houses and added amenities he NO LONGER had to pay attention to Nature to survive. Man has come to the point where he has become seperated from nature and as a result doesn't pay attention to his intution. He now relys on a thing called Science...

There are more things that can go bump in the night than one realizes it is a big universe...

True, but chaos in our universe is extremely rare. Einstein proposed that even human thought and behaviour could be predicted mathematically according to certain laws. Being scientific, I just believe that EVERYTHING that has ever happened in the history of the universe can be explained scientifically and rationally.

You obviously haven't worked with some of the same idiots that I have over the years :)

Everything has a REASON even if it isn't rational.

Because something can't be duplicated each and everytime under lab conditions doesn't mean it itsn't real...first the parameters of science are 2 small. One maybe observing an event whose repetition maybe over hugh amounts of time...and like lightening may not strike twice in the same place...but lightening exists..

I don't want this to turn into a physics/philosophy debate, but the more we learn about the way the universe actually works, the less 'rational' it seems. Einstein was the last great classical physicist - it was his opinion that God did not 'play dice' as he said. He spend most of his efforts the last 40 years of his life trying to come up with evidence to support this opinion and found none that held up under scrutiny.

Now, I'm not saying this to promote esp, ghosts, telekinesis or anything else 'supernatural.' In fact, I agree with you - I think the universe follows its own rules. Whether or not we will every fully understand those rules is a different issue. And since we're aware that we don't understand all the rules, who's to say that things that are unexplianable today won't fit into a nice future theoretical framework?

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke

If something can't be duplicated each and every time under lab conditions, then something is wrong. Just ask the cold fusion guys.

Lightning strikes the same place all the time. I don't understand your point.

I think the point I am trying to make is that if someone claims to be psychic, but can't reproduce any of their psychic abilities under controlled circumstances, then I'm going to be skeptical of their claim. So far, no one has been able to reproduce their claims, so I remain skeptical.

Mike

Absolutely correct... I should have said that EVERYTHING that has ever happened in the history of the universe can --- or will eventually --- be explained scientifically and rationally.

Perhaps one can't call in their order like they can at McDonalds...

I just think that man has gotten away from using all his senses and now is relying on science....which I think is a conceit..because science leaves alot to be desired. One hundered years form today if man is lucky he will look back and say what a crude bunch witch doctors scientists were back then...

Except that Man is not a Rational Being....

I have allready said everything has a reason even if it is not a rational one.

When "everything" gets explained does that mean we become God...all knowing....and is that the end of history...because nothing is left to be discovered...there is only a finite amount of "stuff" out there..

Fair enough. But...it would be neat for someone (one of these fortune teller types, or "paranormals" that supposedly help police find missing bodies, etc.) to actually make a specific, unambiguous prediction and see if it comes true. No one ever does that. They come out of the woodwork after the fact and say they "saw it coming". Where were all these psychics on September 10, 2001?

Mike

Back in the 8th Grade I was talking to a friend over lunch and said , "That guy in Memphis is going to get shot." refering to MLK. That was the day Martin Luther King got shot in Memphis.

I could just see it coming thats all....

I believe. In fact it has happened to me. One time, in New Orleans, down on Bourbon Street, I went up to this woman I had never met before and handed her $40 and said "You are going to have sex with me." And I was right! Unfortunately this supernatural ability never seems to work with my wife.

I worked with the same guy in construction for ten years and toward the end of those years I would hand him tools or materials he needed before he would say a word, freaked him out a little bit.
I also have a musician friend that I have been playing with for about the same time and when we are in the groove we can start, stop, change rhythm without looking or saying anything to each other.

Probably more experience and intuition than clairvoyance though.

I have allready given the Ratrional explaination..no supernatural mystical BS here...If one pays attention to ones FEELINGS and believes that the Imagination is an accurate indicator of Reality...well then Daddy your tapped into what your forefathers in the Trees and Caves knew...

Sorry, but that is unfair. Scientists are well aware of their limitations given today's understanding of issues. And, no, there is not a finite amount of stuff out there. Another million years of our evolution will still not be enough to know it all. Cmon, tabs, open your mind a bit.

Many Many Moons Ago....A close family member was comatose in the final stages before death and I was with him. I started feeling, "I failed him, I failed him." it was more intellectual than emotional...I sat down by his bedside and picked up his hand, clsoed my eyes and thought, "God, I can't talk to him anymore" and like pulling back the reigns on a horse said to myself, "I don't feel like I failed him." I looked up at him and said, "You didin't fail me, go with God." He let out a Breath and was gone....What I said released him, he had felt that by dieing he was letting me down.

I am somewhat skepical concerning telepathy but I do believe that various signals or "tells" are made often.

As for mumbling, I have slept with my wife for 11+ years now. She is a very lite sleeper. She complained enough about my snoring to the point I had my Uvula cut out (now I don't make a peep!). She can be sawing logs and if I come into bed she wakes up immediately no matter how quit I am. If I ever talked in my sleep or mumbled she would kick me or dig her toe nails into my shins (always special). She has never mentioned any noctural verbalizations. I was awake, comfortable, conscience and not particularly sleepy when this occured.

He doesn't show any particular talent for this with anyone else nor have I. My wife often tells me that him and I are too much alike in how we think.

As for the convergence of mystism and the new physics, its a real deal but not the way many people think. The problem is in how we make sense of reality. We are really victms of industry and technology. It has influenced our preception of reality. We think that the "creator" or God is a builder and that reality is a series building events. That there is a master technician. Things are added on to other things. This is really pretty Western thinking. Tradional Eastern (thousands of years old) thinking is the opposite - the whole gets divided not unlike cellular division. In the begining all was one and one was all, things started to break loose but the esseance of the whole can be found in every piece of each part. Look at quantum physics and this is supported.

I didin't use the word "EVERYTHING" Everything implies there is nothing left to find out....and that impleis finite...and all knowing....

So the universe is infinite? If so, in an infinite universe shouldn't there be infinite possbilities?

All our 5 senses pick up information...both on a conscience and subconscience level. man at one time when in nature was more consiceienc of this processing for his own survival. But the subconscience processing still goes on and become s conscience through our imagination. An image will pop up in your mind or you will have a feeling about something, and those feeling are generally pretty accurate. and should be paid more attention to.