believe you to be more prepared than most already, it's folks that have meltdown when their cellphone don't work,or a short power outtage happens..those are the ones that will freak on you quickly , and you now have 2999 rounds left..you will be fine
Rika

2997. Two in the center of mass, one in the head. At least that's what I've been taught...

I went without my cellphone for the day accidently earlier this week and found it an interesting experiment. I'm going to start going "off grid" more regularly.

wacky times, these...

Rika,

I don't want to assess your standing as a sage or a prophet, but your syntax has me worried.
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I will probably buy my first handgun in a year or so after I move...and invest in a gunsafe. Then between my pistol, 12 gauge and 20 gauge I should be able to hold my own in the coming armageddon.

Basically then its going to be Anthrax, Smallpox , possibly in some very resistant strains of the virus.

What other viruses have various governments come up with I don't really know. The most logical source for one of these viruses is the former Soviet Union, where control over them is very lax.

It also might very well be a chemical weapon???

Glad I don't have to travel in any subways or trains....

The Marsburg virus is very interesting....if only transmission were airborne then man could literally kiss it goodbye.

Several years back a SO CAL MD committed suicide after the Feds wanted to arrest him...It seems that he was an ex army colonel who had worked on bio-weapons for the US Army, and was conducting experiments on his patients... He had ties to the S African govt which had a tie into Libya. But the Israelies put the kobash to that one. It seems that this MD claimed to have created a Black Bug which was unstoppable. when the Feds opened his refergrator and dug up his backyard in Orange county they found some very interesting things... On one trip to S Africa this MD had his GF carry the bio material in her handbag on the plane....This information was for the most part all on 60 Minutes....

Here's a thought for you to chew on...

Terrorist makes a bomb about the size of a suitcase or so...IED size. Straps some powdered anthrax in plastic bags onto the bomb. The anthrax has been weaponized so it disperses in the air optimally (the anthrax used in the DC attack was so good if you held some powder in your hand and kept the hand completely still it would evaporate into the air simply by the vibrations of your pulse). This bomb goes off during the NY subway during rush hour. Maybe 100 or so immediately injured, but anthrax is quickly spread through the entire tunnel system carried by the wind currents inside the tunnels....

Skeered yet?

Where do you get this stuff, Denis?...The Clinton Administration's PR team?...The Able Danger operation and Sandy Berger's theft of sensitive documents regarding our ill-preparedness should make a sober man really question the veracity of any Clinton White House statements, not blame Bush's 7 months in office for the intel failures.

The Clinton Administration left quite a series of intelligence knots and deceptions that made it very difficult to navigate what was reality and what was fabrication. Jamie Goerlick constructed the wall of separation that made intel gathering and sharing impossible. Clinton allowed Osama slip through his fingers...And now, when the liberals are so bent on rolling back the Patriot Act and attacking the wire-tapping Bush is doing, we are supposed to believe, what?...That Bush should have been wire-tapping pre-9-11?

All this is a good reason NOT to have public mass transit. ITs to fragil and subject to acts of terror or just malcontents.

Denis, You are partially correct. There is one very quick and easy thing that would have prevented much of what happened on 9/11. Its called awareness. Americans are very good at dealing with new and unusual problems... thats why we are the leader of the world in so many areas.

Once the pax on the 4rd airplane knew that this was not a "normal hijacking" and that they were going to die one way or the other, they risked everything and attempted to take the airplane back. Had the second (WTC #2) and third (DC) passengers known this the carnage might have been less but they did not.

Now we know and if some idiot tried it again and there is no Sky Marshall on the plane, then eventually enough of the passengers will come forward and stomp him and his friends to death on the galley floor. It really only takes a few kicks to get the cockpit door open if you know where to hit it, but this as well hopefully gives one of the pilots time to "lock and load" the pistol in their map case and kill the bastards.

They will come up with another method, and we will figure out a way to defeat it. I just hope that the first hit is something that we can live with.

JoeA

Rika,

I cannot do it right now, am overseas and bouncing from base to hotel and back. Glad to try it with others in a week.

Your comments about survival are right on. My ex-wife is from Berlin, I lived there for over 10 years. Her Mother survived the Russians when they "occupied" the town after the war and the stories she told are very "eye opening" to say the least. The more people learn what it can be like in a war, the more they are prepared in case another one happens.

Joe A

Don,

VERY GOOD information there. Much of this is spot on and unless a person has lived in an Arab culture they would not know it. The problem is how do we convince the tree huggers that their lunch is going to be eaten when something happens unless we are ready for it?

The moment we show weakness (frigging Sheehan and her friends) they will pounce on it, thinking that the rest of the country feel the same. Well, I know of a few guys and gals wearing a uniform who do not share the same viewpoint and will kick their rear in a heartbeat.

JoeA

People from that part of the world view kindness as weakness.

If things do eventually go down, I'll be greatful to not be in a major metro area. I'll be in central KS with my in-laws, and my father-in-law's cache of guns, surrounded by similarly minded individuals. Farmers and backwards rednecks look pretty appealing in the face of anarchy. Though I still am hard pressed to see it happen, I think the magnitude of the attack required to throw our country into the dark ages is beyond what a these terrorists can muster. Even the destruction of a major US city, horrible as it would be, wouldn't be enough to cause the social structure and authority in the rest of the nation to vaporize. I'm sure there would be looting, violence, and general unrest, but I believe that we would be able to recover.

Probably the only good thing that came out of 9/11 is it showed that our country is still able to pull together, regardless of the large differences in opinion that some of us have. We were attacked, pissed off, and united towards the common goal of kicking the ass of whoever did it to us. I think we all have it in us, just some hide it better than others.

Agree with most of the above. Myself will either head to the mountains, 90 minutes drive North, or Mexico, 4 hours drive South.

One thing that does worry me is a dirty bomb, which if set off correctly could blow radiation over a wide part of the country. Set it off 30 miles West of Phoenix and the nuke powerplant as well as Phoenix would get a full dose if the winds are as they usually are. Same with Wichita, and doing that would cut our aircraft production by 50% for years. A rented Ryder truck full of diesel fuel and fertilizer (where have we heard that before) with 2-3 obsolete x-ray machines inside and things could get nasty.

We just need to catch them before or in the act. Personally I would prefer to overhear them talking about it, then bust them as they are putting it together. Doing things at the last minute is too late for this old fart...

JoeA

Hey Puppy it not the area of destruction or deaths ...its what it does to our financial/monetary system...it could collapse like a house of cards and send the World into a Depression that makes the Great Depression look like prosperity.

Hawk, given that is my 2nd language, I believe I'm doing okay in getting my view across. I respect what you do for my country, but I'm
not worried about my grades here or elsewhere .

and before someone inquires about my panties being getting twisted up..I'm more than fine.
stay, and fly safe Hawk,
Rika

True, but stupidity is also viewed as a weakness.


Joeaksa, remember you have not lived in an Arab culture - you have been a visitor there. I lived in a predominantly Arab neighborhood while growing up. No fun being the minority, and hearing the horrid Mosque loudspeaker prayers replace the beautiful chimes of the church bells.

The more exposure to western culture, the more like us they become. Which is why some of their leaders wish to limit our influence and isolate their followers.

If the only exposure they have to us is through the barrel of a gun - trust me, this can not be good.

Fear may rule them; we can not allow it to rule us.

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Rika,

I found your word usage facinating...still do. Your point comes across perfectly, THAT is why I worried. All the best...and unfortunately, the only thing I'm flying now is a desk!

Kach, remember that you do not know me at all so pls try to be a bit more accurate before you posts things about me.

I lived in Saudi Arabia, Riyadh to be even more accurate. Riyadh is the capitol and thus a bit more conservative than any other city in the country other than Mecca/Madina, the two holy Muslim cities.

Growing up was in a neighbourhood where over half of the other families were Arab.

Guess this qualifies to make me know just a bit about it? Then have been there on and off the last two months, just to refresh my "Middle East" quotient.

I agree that the more exposure, the more that they like the western ideas. Then they go home and return to their ways. It does not stick long.

Agree with your last two statements. There still is a faction that still wants to kill us and end our society. Unfortunately they will be difficult to stop.

JoeA