Is there such thing as women raping boys?

[nostatic]

Originally posted by Joeaksa
Todd,

When I was 12 the girl was 15 and when I was 14 she was 18. They were both single, so do not give me that "scars" crap.

Not a large difference but today both ladies would be in jail if caught. Do not feel that its right, then nor now. It was two kids experiencing sex and no rape what so ever.

JoeA

Joe, who says they would be in jail if caught? The first case you're both minors. In the second case it probably is statutory rape, but that could be a judgement call.

As for scars, we each have our own whether we choose to see them or not. And I would argue that for instance a 13 year old having sex with a 26 year old is not "just two kids experienceing sex", but in fact is wrong. Something is wrong with the 26 year old, and something will be wrong with the 13 year old.

[Aurel]

Originally posted by pwd72s
Keep in mind, Aurel is a Professor at a East Coast University...is this a demonstration of the "clear thinking" he passes on to young skulls full of mush?

PWd72S,

Could you please imprint once and for all in that old mushy brain of yours, the following information: I am a professor in a Materials Research and Engineering dept. I do not not teach politics, history, or social sciences. Actually, I do not teach in classes at all. I only teach graduate students how to synthetize advanced materials and to to integrate them into devices such as batteries, solar cells, light emitting diodes...that does not give me time to indoctrinate anyone. You are just spreading that stupid talking point your heard from Rush Limbo (pun!) or Sean Hannity.

To the lynchcrowd: Thanks for virtually raping me, and making me feel like I was a monster, rapist, childish, etc, etc...

Cool chick, I really appreciate someone who can read and understand what I was asking. Thanks

Aurel

[Aurel]

Originally posted by Zeke

I don't normally stoop to an argument ad hominem, but you've really got to be some kind of an idiot. [/B]

Being called an idiot by someone who does not have enough brain to figure out by himself why a PC running WIN98 with 64Mb of RAM is slow, that`s rather ironical, if you ask me.
Computer performance check

Given these circumstances, I suspect that there are many other things you cannnot figure out by yourself. Thus, I am not very interested in debating with you, or your wife, behind whom you seem to be hiding. I evidently struck a cord into you, which revealed much anger and lack of control. We could have had a civilized discussion, and I could have learned much from you, as I learned from Singpilot, and others who shared their stories.

Aurel

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by nostatic
Joe, who says they would be in jail if caught? The first case you're both minors. In the second case it probably is statutory rape, but that could be a judgement call.

As for scars, we each have our own whether we choose to see them or not. And I would argue that for instance a 13 year old having sex with a 26 year old is not "just two kids experienceing sex", but in fact is wrong. Something is wrong with the 26 year old, and something will be wrong with the 13 year old.

Agree and the second situation she would be in jail in most states.

If its someone 10 years older having sex with a young kid, then thats wrong, but otherwise if the two kids are 3-4 years apart then thats just normal in my book. Too much "political correctness" in my book in some areas these days.

Joe A

[Zeke]

Originally posted by Aurel
Being called an idiot by someone who does not have enough brain to figure out by himself why a PC running WIN98 with 64Mb of RAM is slow, that`s rather ironical, if you ask me.
Computer performance check

Given these circumstances, I suspect that there are many other things you cannnot figure out by yourself. Thus, I am not very interested in debating with you, or your wife, behind whom you seem to be hiding. I evidently struck a cord into you, which revealed much anger and lack of control. We could have had a civilized discussion, and I could have learned much from you, as I learned from Singpilot, and others who shared their stories.

Aurel

Oh, come on. First of all, you commit worse fallacies than I with your logic. So don't go on about who has a brain. Understanding technology has nothing in the world to do with this subject. And retorting with more ad hominem only shows you don't know the definition of that either. At least I will identify a fallacy I'm about to commit.

AFA as hiding, well, I'm not. I was pointing out that you are offending women here as well as anyone who understands the morality issue, male or female. Oh, you did mention that you considered the moral side of this, but did you?

And, as far as "out of control," partner, you deserve a lot more heat than I can give here for your ludicrous question that opened this thread.

Someone has issues with figuring things out that would propose that an act between an older man and a younger woman is different than an older women and a boy, as it were, due to strength. And then further assert that there is a difference between the same act initiated from man to woman vs. from woman to man (or boy, as you put it), calling one rape but the other molestation.

I submit, as my evidence, the following from your various posts to show that you are clearly misunderstanding of the law and are morally bankrupt:

A woman, physically, cannot `rape` a man. There is no such thing, period. A man can rape a woman, a boy, a girl, but the the(sic) reverse is impossible.

....because the man, in order to be able to function, would have to be enjoying it somehow.

Now I know this is taken out of context, but there really wasn't context in that particular post to begin with:

What the female school teachers do to young boys is molestation, not rape. It does not make it right, but this is not rape.

You couldn’t be more wrong about that.

Then, there’s this gem:

I think that the notion of rape done by women is a perverse effect of feminism which tends to consider men and women equal in all accounts. Men and women are not equal, because they are different. And, from the same token, the statutory rape age should be different for men and women, so that school teachers would not be prosecuted for applying sexual education on their male students.

It should be different between men and women? Why? And are you serious that a sexual act on a minor is "education?" My God, man.

And, if you will allow me one more indiscretion involving context:

Do I need explain more?

That's rather pompous for someone who will later claim to have “learned.” Actually, I don't believe you that you learned anything. You have some deep rooted problems regarding the roles of the opposite sexes relative to each other, equality wise. You have even deeper problems regarding what is acceptable sexual behavior between under aged individuals and adults.

again:

Do I need explain more?

That set the tone for the whole discussion and my "anger," if you will. And, yes, I believe you do have some explaining to do.

I’m being perfectly civil now. I challenge you to either refute your statements or LOGICALLY support them.

[cool_chick]

Zeke, you sure anger easily.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by cool_chick Zeke, you sure anger easily.

If you were using a computer that was 6 years old, with W98 on it to access Pelican, you would be frustrated as well!

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by Joeaksa
If you were using a computer that was 6 years old, with W98 on it to access Pelican, you would be frustrated as well!

Who's problem is that?

Call Dell! It's not like they're a lot of money anymore.

Can't make excuses (the computer made me do it)....LOL

[Joeaksa]

Believe that he just decided yesterday to get a new computer, was just razzing him about it. Truthfully, working on a slow old machine can try my patience.

Was out on the road for a while and using a fairly fast laptop. Returned home and remembered what it was really like using a nice fast desktop. Alas, going back out tomorrow so will have to put up with the laptop for a couple of weeks more!

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by Joeaksa
Believe that he just decided yesterday to get a new computer, was just razzing him about it. Truthfully, working on a slow old machine can try my patience.

Was out on the road for a while and using a fairly fast laptop. Returned home and remembered what it was really like using a nice fast desktop. Alas, going back out tomorrow so will have to put up with the laptop for a couple of weeks more!

Doesn't give anyone an excuse to act mean. Aurel's question didn't warrant that kind of a hostile reaction.

I have a sweet wireless laptop.

Where you heading now?

[Joeaksa]

London, two weeks in Europe... Need anything? You know the email addy...

[singpilot]

Joe, I just begged off of a trip to London, Barcelona and Florence. Leaves tonight. We might have actually met out on the road....


Enuf of the hijack....... back to the flames.....

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by Joeaksa
London, two weeks in Europe... Need anything? You know the email addy...

I love that hazelnut chocolate over there... mmmmmmm

[Joeaksa]

Michael,

Just emailed you.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by cool_chick
I love that hazelnut chocolate over there... mmmmmmm

Just came back with some Godiva truffles, both in plain and Gran Marnier... too bad you are so far away!

[Zeke]

Originally posted by cool_chick
Zeke, you sure anger easily.

I see by the above banter about computer speed, that this thread has lost something. I recommend that as soon as Aurel has as opportunity to present his rebuttal, that the thread be closed.

This is far too serious of a matter to prattle about carelessly.

I anger easily? Say thanks that someone has enough backbone to stand up and be counted. Chick, apparently you, too, should spend some time at a child abuse clinic. Most people think of child abuse, the typical victim, and /or related treatment to be the province of subteens. Nothing could be further from the truth.

An alarming amount of sexual abuse is not reported. Many , many times acts of abuse are suppressed and can indeed manifest later in behavioral patterns. Sometimes, this can even be more abuse towards others as the victim goes older.

We have abuse in our jails, our youth camps, our schools, our churches (you know about that one), and of course in our homes.
Have you happened to notice that numbers of victims come forward only after the investigation is in progress and has identified the perpetrator(s)? Yes, some are false. More are only comfortable enough to tell their story when they don't feel so alone.

I could go on and on. But, that's not the point. The point is, through his statements, the thread author has stated a willingness to accept standards that I will not. And not just me, but the majority of citizens in this society.

To say that I anger easily over a statement that adult, female education professionals be allowed a different set of rules regarding sexual behavior with their students is an understatement of major proportion.

Originally posted by Aurel ...so that school teachers would not be prosecuted for applying sexual education on their male students.

Man, I can't get that out of my head. You're damn right I'm angry!

[cool_chick]

I don't think that's what Aurel meant. I honestly don't think that's quite what Aurel meant. I could be wrong, but I think he meant this:

His point was that he couldn't understand how a woman could physically rape a man as he was thinking man needs his tool to work for rape to occur, which he felt would be impossible in that situation. He stood corrected.

I look forward to Aurel's comments.

[Zeke]

Originally posted by cool_chick
I don't think that's what Aurel meant. I honestly don't think that's quite what Aurel meant. (snip)
I look forward to Aurel's comments.

You read it your way and I'll read it mine. As far as his comments, me too.

[pwd72s]

Look forward to Aurel's comments? Sure....it's enlightening to read the stuff written by someone politically to the right of Karl Marx, one who feels it's just fine for grown women to sexually abuse young lads...nice to know that "cool chick" (perhaps too?) enthusiastically supports Aurel's viewpoint. It's all a learning experience for me.

[Aurel]

My comments are very simple: Cool got it, Zeke did not. And the statutory rape age comment was rather a joke to drive my point accross. I do not feel the need to write an elaborate point by point rebuttal. Rebuttals are worth it when there is something to gain from them, such as having a paper published, having a grant awarded, etc...not on a sunday night when I have much better things to do with my time. Arguing on the internet is like yelling into space: pointless.

Aurel