In aviation, we only need one of everything...........

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by Amail
I thought I was paying attention, but...

What's a hard point?

I think I'm correct when I say

"You put your bombs on there"

[svandamme]

Originally posted by lendaddy
I think I'm correct when I say

"You put your bombs on there"

or annoying & loud passengers you don't want in the cockpit , like inlaws or offspring

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by Amail
I thought I was paying attention, but... What's a hard point?

Hard points are a place where you can hang various things from the wing or fuselage. Guns, bombs, fuel tanks etc.

Here is a photo from the 366th Tactical Fighter Wing, aka “The Gunfighters” in country in 1967. The F-4 did not have a close range weapon and the pilots were finding out that the missles did not work "in close" so they hung a 20 mm cannon under the wing and went hunting. The two crews pictured downed several MIG's using this newly configured airplane.



The first few sorties the MIG's found out the hard way that the F-4's were now armed for any situation and several were downed immediately.

You just do not fork with a Phantom!

JA

[beepbeep]

My favorite bird. Doing M2 in fighter for 2 mins on full reheat is all nice and dandy but M2.0 w/o reheat for three hours straight and 25 years in service while towing 100 passengers is really cool.

[beepbeep]

P.S. Do you know why old birds smoke so much?

They have to smoke a lot in order to get high

[Joeaksa]

Goran,

Agree completely and it was a sad day when the Concorde was pulled from service.

My Father did it right years ago. Flew over on the Concorde, played around in London for a while then took the Queen Mary back to NYC. The old and new on the same trip. Wish we could make the same journey...

JA

[kach22i]

I found a pretty cool Aviation forum today:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/index.php?

Has a search function for threads and photos - don't have to sign up to use it.

[Drago]

Originally posted by Joeaksa
Hard points are a place where you can hang various things from the wing or fuselage. Guns, bombs, fuel tanks etc.

In commercial a hard point is a fitting used to attach things to the floor, such as galley's, lav's or crew rests.

Not near as much fun as a military hard point.

[oldE]

Goran,

Thank you for the third pic of the "Speedbird". My first time at Heathrow, a Concord was taking off as we walked from our flight into the terminal. That image was almost exactly what I saw that day.
An interesting note. Nova Scotia is just off the 'great circle route' from New York to London. Until a couple of years ago, we could note the dishes rattling in the cupboard around 9:25 on calm Sunday mornings. I checked it out. It seems the Concord, which had left New York not long before, was flying off the south coast of Nova Scotia and we were getting faint tremors from the sonic boom...more than 60 miles away!
Les

[snowman]

Seahawk,

What kind of SRS did they have on the things you flew? What kind of rescue radio eg URC 64, PRC 90, PRC 112 or other. I was the AF project eng for them and ej seats and like stuff. We were just starting work on high G bras when I worked for the life support spo I Haven't keep up with the stuff for a long time.

Unrelated note. I had to undergo parachute training, including ejection seats(I bailed out just before the ej part), high altitude rapid decompression training, jungle survival training and more to get this Be a passenger in a CH53 over OHIO and we never went over 10K feet to boot. Didn't even carry chutes. and the last I looked there is very little jungle in Ohio.

[MFAFF]

Concorde....don't forget the last 'e'....

[Seahawk]

Originally posted by snowman
Seahawk,

What kind of SRS did they have on the things you flew? What kind of rescue radio eg URC 64, PRC 90, PRC 112 or other. I was the AF project eng for them and ej seats and like stuff. We were just starting work on high G bras when I worked for the life support spo I Haven't keep up with the stuff for a long time.

Unrelated note. I had to undergo parachute training, including ejection seats(I bailed out just before the ej part), high altitude rapid decompression training, jungle survival training and more to get this Be a passenger in a CH53 over OHIO and we never went over 10K feet to boot. Didn't even carry chutes. and the last I looked there is very little jungle in Ohio.

Snowman,

I'm not sure what an SRS is! In my first fleet tour we had PRC 90s and were working on the 112 in combination with the Downed Aviator Locator System (DALS) when I was working flight test.

Are you working a Wright-Pat?

[rcecale]

Figured this would be a great location to post this video.

Shows just how important a good ground crew is.

Randy

[air-cool-me]

"last attempt to save Scott" I'm pretty sure if he could fly well enough to pull that off he could have survived his attempt at landing..

should have been "last attempt to save Scott some money"

[rcecale]

C'mon, Nick, it's television. They've got to dramatize it a little bit...

Randy

[snowman]

I used to work at WP. I was the AF tri serv proj eng. I started the PRC 112 project (about 1975) and was in charge of what was called the SAS for Survival Avionics System which was being done by Cinnincinati Electronics at the time. I participated in several flight tests of that system using the CH53. When I left the PRC 112 contract had just been given to Motorola. SAS was for multiple survivors at a specified range. I will leave out specifics because there is no reason to broadcast them to everyone.

Sorry about the size. One of the requirements was to use standard size cells and of course it had to work below freezing for 24hours. I did insist and wrote the spec so that the radio was "modularized" ie differen't modules, with differen't funcitons, could be easily integrated with the radio portion. The PRC 90 was a disaster in Nam and was traded for URC 64's because it wasn't reliable. A guy named C. Pottle preceeded me on this. He was famous for going to the Pentagon and beating the crap out af a generals Mahogony desk with the antenna. Soneone on the news showed the antenna being broken with a guy running by a tree with it extended. His other point was that for the antenna to be effective it had to be a 5/8 wave length long. That was if you really wanted the specified range.

Anyway I was the only one dumb enough to stand under a hoovering copter while they took data. Pilots said they wouldn't have done it, of course this was AFTER the test.

Did you know a CH 53 can do loops? I remember asking a 1st LT sitting next to me one flight if the thing could do a loop. He turned white as a ghost, said SHUTUP, they migh hear you. Seems they had done one the day before, and he wasn't interested in a repeat demo.

Anyway Hows the PRC 112-xav doing? They done anything to make it thinner? As to the survivor locator system I hope they have something functional by now.