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In aviation, we only need one of everything...........


We really didn't need that other winglet..... OK, OK, if that tire blows, we still have another one on that side.



Speaking of having another on that side..... My instructor told me I'd have days like this.




Even big planes sometimes have only ONE of some things... and you do need at least one of them. Missing the ONE nose gear will make ONE more call to the chief......




No matter how big, they WILL still fly with only ONE. This is the classic compressor stall. You can even see the ONE Captain putting in the right rudder to compensate for only ONE good engine at liftoff.




Then there was this ONE soft spot in the frozen lake.




In this case, if there had only been ONE set of wires, things might have turned out differently.


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Old 01-25-2006, 08:44 AM
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Cool stuff.

Thought this was related somehow:

http://mazury.info.pl/bojery/wytrzymalosc.html
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Old 01-25-2006, 08:51 AM
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OK, here's the ONEs that the server rejected the first time.....



The ONE propeller did all this damage. All it would have taken was ONE parking brake to prevent all of this.




Only ONE thing to do at this point. ONE second prior to impact, the ONE pilot ejects. Anyone that has ever actually done this ride will tell you it is the ONE thing in aviation that was designed by a madman.




Maybe ONE more gallon of fuel would have kept this pilot from having to arrange for dock space at the marina.

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I was almost there for the last one. Happened three years ago in Penn Cove on Whidbey Island. In the early Monday morning a pilot and wife come in and splash in the cove where we were supposed to be racing sailbots. Both got out OK, got checked out at the hospital, went and chartered another plane and flew off. It was interestig to watch the haul out over the next few days. Never did her the cause.
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I'm pretty sure this one is a photochop...

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If anyone is looking for a good read during a trip or vacation try "Flying through Midnight" by John Halliday. Clandestine C 123 flights over Laos back in 1970. Some of you might be old enough to remember that era.
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SIng,

Have you ever punched out before?

Ifi remeber correctly, you used to fly F-4's?
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Thom;

The triple 7's had a problem with a 'burp' (compressor stall) with agressive rotations for a while. They rescheduled the fuel controllers on spoolup and in T/O and Go-Around modes. I have no idea if this is a 'chop' shot, but it is exactly what it looks like.
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Yep. Have the scars to prove it. Would not reccomend that ride to anyone.
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OK, I saw something interesting the other day that sing, joe or somebody needs to chime in on. As some of you may know, I actually work in between two runways, so I see stuff taking off and landing every day.

Well, coming back from lunch the other day I saw what appeared to be a 757 (or possibly a similar configuration Airbus if it exists?) flying at a *very* high angle of attack (such a high angle that the thing appeared to be close to stall as it's forward velocity was so slow it appeared to simply be hanging in the air). The crazy thing is that it was on approach for landing and was probably only 1000ft off the ground!

What was up? Aborted landing? I kept watching because I actually suspected I was about to witness an "incident". He retracted his gear and finally levelled off some what and flew right over the runway (still at probably 1500 ft) and continued on his merry way.

Very strange.

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Mike;

Was definately a go-around. Probably due to a wind shear. The 'escape manuever' is an immediate arrest of the descent rate (by whatever means), and max power. Positive rate, gear up, fly the missed approach, in this case, sounds like over the runway.

The 'escape' is flown at max angle of climb, even as slow as 'stick shaker' speed... the object is to not contact the ground; get a positive rate of climb started. Would explain why it looked so steep. Pilots are not allowed to 'interpret' or modify this procedure.

Cockpit windshear alert below a set altitude, 'immediate escape manuever'.
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As I remember, was a late pull. Might have even been Edwards. The video was ugly. I think even the HUD view was out for a while.
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Are you an inch or so shorter since that ride?
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I was passenger on commercial flight sometime ago, headed into LaGuardia. We aborted on short final and pilot raised the nose abruptly and applied available power to arrest decent, very high angle of attack. We mushed through the air and eventually gained altitude. No comments from the cockpit. We flew around, eventually going to JFK and landing normal approach. Upon landing, no thrust reversers and heavy breaks applied, stopped finally. Pilot came on intercom and advised we had engine failure on final to LGA and diverted to JFK for longer runway. Had to be hauled off the runway with tug. Not an experience I want to repeat.
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I think this is the HUD view video you are thinking about.
http://www.aviationexplorer.com/usaf_thunderbird_f16_video.htm

However the pic shown above is from the 2003 "Gunfighter Skies" Airshow at Mountain Home AFB.
http://www.f-16.net/news_article968.html

The view of the runway from the video does not seem to match up to what's in the picture, so I think they are seperate events.
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Are you an inch or so shorter since that ride?
Not that I can tell. There are several pieces of my right leg still under that cockpit canopy rail, wherever it is on the bottom of the Pacific.

I hurt my back several years ago getting back into the 911 after being squeezed into a parking space by an SUV on steroids. The doc said that I had 'degenerative spine disease'..... When I asked what that was, he said that I was getting old, too old for a 911, and that I was being paid back for some injury in my youth.

I have always assumed it was my exit from that airplane. I cannot think of a single other activity that would have injured my back (!!).
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Cash;

That's the one!
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I hurt my back several years ago getting back into the 911 after being squeezed into a parking space by an SUV on steroids. The doc said that I had 'degenerative spine disease'..... When I asked what that was, he said that I was getting old
If your insurance will cover it - and most will, see a chiropractor soon. Degenerative spine disease is from "just getting old", however a better explaination might be; uncorrected spine misalignment has gone untreated and neglected for so long that your muscles and spine have gotten used to this condition and are now all messed up. The right thing to do is try to get the base problem adjusted before most of the spine becomes fused together. Once you become all locked up, something like phase 4 or 5, nothing can be done. I was or am a 2.5 on this 4 or 5 point degration scale, misaligned not fused together.

Good luck, my insurance paid for everything which was over a dozen visits - all I paid was $20 up front for the processing fee.
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Thanks, have been seeing one on and off ever since.
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Not that I can tell. There are several pieces of my right leg still under that cockpit canopy rail, wherever it is on the bottom of the Pacific.

I hurt my back several years ago getting back into the 911 after being squeezed into a parking space by an SUV on steroids. The doc said that I had 'degenerative spine disease'..... When I asked what that was, he said that I was getting old, too old for a 911, and that I was being paid back for some injury in my youth.

I have always assumed it was my exit from that airplane. I cannot think of a single other activity that would have injured my back (!!).
When you eject, are there cables or something you attach to your feet to retract them back? Or is the leg on the canopy pretty commonplace?

Do they still eject though the canopy at all? Saw a "Wings" episode where they showed people slamming through the canopy, I can imagine that causes some injury

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