Back when a Coke was a Coke.......

[mede8er]

And a republican was a conservative........

Now the Repubs get involved with your most private affairs, practice imperialism in the name of democracy and put the country into a downward spiral of debt.....

It's enough to drive a true conservative to drink...which I think I will......

[snowman]

Like I have said many times, Bush1 and Bush2 are closet Democrats. The Democratic party is to the left of the Communist party nowdays, so thats why real democrats appear to be republicans. Real republicans are currently left out in the cold. The Real republicans, which are actually near center, are being called right wing zelots. Makes one wonder where the John Birch and Klan hang out nowdays, as they are the real right wing zelots.

[red-beard]

Well, way way back when, when Coke contained, coke, the Republicans were 'liberals'.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by snowman
The Real republicans, which are actually near center, are being called right wing zelots. Makes one wonder where the John Birch and Klan hang out nowdays, as they are the real right wing zelots.

The Klan are first and foremost socialists and certainly not dominated by Bible believing Christians...Far far from the American right.

Neo-nazis

[Mulhollanddose]

Their website reads like a fastpat diatribe.

http://www.nsm88.com/articles/cost%20of%20the%20war.html

[mede8er]

Too bad the Libertarians have no mechinism for success......

[cashflyer]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
The Klan are first and foremost socialists and certainly not dominated by Bible believing Christians...Far far from the American right.

Neo-nazis

Historically, the Klu Klux Klan, has been pro-democrat. They have spoken out strongly against both the socialist and communist ideologies, and also against the republicans. (and against the Roman Catholics, Jews, and illegal aliens)

The link you provided has nothing to do with "the Klan". Neo-Nazis are a whole different entity.

Edit: removed link

[Racerbvd]

Don't foget about WV KKK Robert Bird, dem senator for like 50 years.
Yep, the left always forget about him when accusing the right of being racist.

Just then, Mr. Jackson, a Washington old-timer and local historian known for his photographic memory, entered the shop for his weekly trim and chance to smoke his cigar, since Mrs. Jackson was having none of that in her house. He soon caught the drift of the discussion and waited patiently until Darrell turned to him for a definitive reading on the Byrd situation.

"What's the real deal, Mr. Jackson?" asked Darrell.

Settling into a well-worn chair in the middle of the shop where he usually held court, Mr. Jackson pulled out his stogie, lit it, took a few unhurried puffs and let the smoke drift to the ceiling. "The real story came out during the 1960 presidential primary in West Virginia, where Byrd was a key figure in the 'Stop Kennedy' campaign," Jackson said.

"Word got around that Byrd had been a Klan member, but he tried to say it was only briefly." Mr. Jackson, who'd anticipated a barbershop discussion of just this topic, pulled an old news clipping out of his pocket, an April 21, 1960, Washington Post story by David Wise of the Herald Tribune News Service. He read from it:

"The Ku Klux Klan developed primarily as a terrorist group aimed at the Southern Negro in Reconstruction times, but it is also virulently anti-Catholic."

John F. Kennedy, Mr. Jackson reminded his audience, was Catholic.

On the business about Byrd's brief Klan membership, Mr. Jackson again quoted the story: "The fact is that he was a Kleagle, or organizer, for the Klan during World War II and wrote as late as 1946 to Dr. Samuel Green of Atlanta, Imperial Grand Wizard of the Klan, recommending a friend as a Kleagle and urging promotion of the Klan throughout the nation."

Mr. Jackson said the story also reported that in 1946, Byrd wrote to Imperial Wizard Green: "The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia."

As for "youthful indiscretion," Mr. Jackson observed that in 1946, Robert Byrd was 29 years old. American Taliban John Walker Lindh, he pointed out, is 20.

Byrd knew what he was doing, said Mr. Jackson. In 1945, a year earlier, Byrd wrote to Mississippi's virulent segregationist Sen. Theodore Bilbo that he would never serve in an integrated Army. "Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds," Byrd wrote. Confronted with the letter in 1999, Byrd said he didn't recall writing it, but he said, "I will not dispute the quote, though I consider it deplorable."

Mr. Jackson, ever the historian, said that in 1946, the same year Kleagle Robert Byrd was writing to his imperial wizard, six blacks were lynched in America, including two black couples at the Moore's Ford Bridge near Monroe, Ga., and a young black man who was burned alive with a blowtorch by a Louisiana mob. And a black Army veteran also had his eyes gouged out with the butt of a billy club by South Carolina police.

The resurgence of lynchings and violence against blacks in the South got so bad in '46 that President Truman was spurred to order a special federal investigation. That same year, Byrd was elected to the West Virginia legislature. Four years later, he went to Congress, where he's been ever since.

And that, said Mr. Jackson, may help explain why Sen. Byrd rode the city so hard when he became chairman of the Senate Appropriations subcommittee on the District of Columbia.

At a public hearing this week, said Mr. Jackson, Byrd lectured the Bush administration on the difficulties of rooting out terrorists. Mr. Jackson added softly, "He should know."

With that recitation, Mr. Jackson crossed his legs at the knee, folded his hands in his lap and said primly, "You gentlemen may take it from there."

A hush fell over the shop.

An angry voice was heard from the back of the shop.

"And since he's been in Washington, Byrd's been using my money and yours to build monuments to himself in West Virginia." It was Fast Frankie, who, until that moment, had not said a word.

Frankie has folks in the Charleston area and gets back to visit frequently. Frankie said Byrd has more pork in West Virginia than there is in all the packing houses in the world -- all in his name.

"Don't think so?" he challenged. "There's the Robert C. Byrd Highway, the Robert C. Byrd Hilltop Office Complex, the Robert C. Byrd Federal Courthouse, the Robert C. Byrd Life Long Learning Center, the Robert C. Byrd Locks and Dams, the Robert C. Byrd Rural Health Center, the Robert C. Byrd Academic and Technology Center, the Robert C. Byrd United Technical Center, the Robert C. Byrd High School, the Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center, the Robert C. Byrd Institute for Advanced Flexible Manufacturing . . ."

It was getting dark outside, and everyone was eager to go home. But Darrell couldn't budge Fast Frankie. So he flipped the "closed" sign on the door, locked his barbershop and left Fast Frankie inside, comfortably seated in his chair, still going strong:

". . . the Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope, the Robert C. Byrd National Technology Transfer Center, the Robert C. Byrd Intermodal Transportation Center and Garage . . ."

e-mail: kingc@washpost.com

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A26485-2002Mar1

[snowman]

Originally posted by red-beard
Well, way way back when, when Coke contained, coke, the Republicans were 'liberals'.

Oh how I long for the days of "Real Coke". Cocane is for people like Clinton, but Coca leaves, a slight stimulant, similar to caffine, would be a welcome drink. Maybe, just maybe it would reduce the desire of some for the more potent stuff. Ie a small fix if good, but a big one bad, just like drinking to much. Most people do not drink to much, so why punish the responsible people for the acts of a bunch of loosers. I have never tried "real coke" but I have read the history of this country and of the people that did try it. Being lied to is the best way to cause civil dissobedience. Or is it just about keeping the darkies in their place? THat seems to be the only explanation for our current laws.

How does it help your child to put them prison for the rest of their life to protect them from the evil demons of drugs? Which is worse, no life because of drugs or no life because of a use of drugs, ie prison. Same difference to me and my kid. The only thing drug laws seem to produce is record income for various groups of people, mostly politicians.

I would rather have my kid rot and have no life due to drugs, with some chance of redemption, than have them in prison for the rest of their life, no chance for anything. And from what I have learned prison does not mean no drugs, just more drugs.

I am lucky not to have a kid in this situation, but if I did I would feel betrayed by the system.

Then there is John De Lorian, explain that to someone in prison.

[red-beard]

A lot of laws (including firearm restrictions) were aimed at slaves, former slaves and free negros

[Racerbvd]

Originally posted by snowman

How does it help your child to put them prison for the rest of their life to protect them from the evil demons of drugs? Which is worse, no life because of drugs or no life because of a use of drugs, ie prison. Same difference to me and my kid. The only thing drug laws seem to produce is record income for various groups of people, mostly politicians.

I would rather have my kid rot and have no life due to drugs, with some chance of redemption, than have them in prison for the rest of their life, no chance for anything. And from what I have learned prison does not mean no drugs, just more drugs.

Well, the way I see it, they are locking people up who have either committed crimes are are having other commit the crimes to fund the drug habit. Drugs wouldn't be such a big deal if there wasn't so much crime connected to it.

[legion]

That's funny.

Crime wasn't connected to drugs until they became a big deal.

(Thanks WRH!)