Over/Under on time to military action in Iran?

[Nathans_Dad]

Apparently the crazy Iranian President today rejected calls from Europe and the US to back down on their Uranium enrichment, including rejecting an offer from Russia to have uranium enriched in Russia and then used in Iran. He also threatened to withdraw from the Non-Proliferation Treaty...

Clock is ticking, IMHO. I do think this one will be a more multi-national action though, probably more along the lines of Gulf War I.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11286133/

[Shaun @ Tru6]

love the gopher!

[Joeaksa]

Even the people in the middle east are afraid of him and his actions. Have been in both Lebanon and Egypt this week and everywhere people are talking about this idiot. When fellow arabs are against him then the stage is pretty well set...

Lets see what the limp dork United Nations does in a few weeks when they meet...

Joe A

[djmcmath]

A German commentary the other week noted with concern that Iran's missile systems can reach into Germany. It was just an op-ed piece, but the writer was clearly concerned about Iran's nuclear program.

Last week I spotted a piece in a Russian news source noting some remarkably suspicious items from Iran's program. There are, for example, direct administrative links between the "peaceful" nuclear program and the high explosives and missile programs. Additionally, the Russian commentator noted that Iran claims to be building only one reactor, a scale of program for which purchasing externally refined uranium would be far more efficient. Instead, they are intent on refining their own, a practice demonstrating that there's possibly more to the program than one reactor. Another Russian article noted that the delivery systems available to Iran can reach well into Russia.

An Chinese op-ed piece opined that Iran would have The Bomb inside one year.

Oddly enough, I haven't seen any concern on the part of Israel towards Iran. Did I miss that article, or is there something that the Jews know that the rest of Europe is missing out on?

My suspicion is that the US won't get involved. The press is pushing peace pretty heavily, and the populace is unhappy about the several thousand dead from our Iraq experience. The President may declare that he doesn't give a rat's petut, since he's not concerned about re-election anyway, but I'm thinking that he's not nearly that nutty.

[Rodeo]

Iraq was a cakewalk compared to what would be involved in a military solution to Iran (and the irony of course is that the government we sacrificed our soldiers to elect in Iraq has already vowed to take Iran's side in any conflict).

My bet is that we shot our wad, militarily, diplomatically, financially and politically, on the non-threat from Iraq. Unless Europe takes the lead in a military solution, which they will not, we will sit and watch as the real threat grows.

[HardDrive]

Originally posted by Rodeo
Iraq was a cakewalk compared to what would be involved in a military solution to Iran (and the irony of course is that the government we sacrificed our soldiers to elect in Iraq has already vowed to take Iran's side in any conflict).

My bet is that we shot our wad, militarily, diplomatically, financially and politically, on the non-threat from Iraq. Unless Europe takes the lead in a military solution, which they will not, we will sit and watch as the real threat grows.

Bingo.

[Nathans_Dad]

While I would agree that a US invasion of Iran would be unlikely given the current political climate, military action can take many forms...a well placed sniper might be able to effect a change in leadership just as easily as a full scale invasion. Course the US doesn't assassinate people (yeah right) so our Slavic friends might do the trick...

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
While I would agree that a US invasion of Iran would be unlikely given the current political climate, military action can take many forms...a well placed sniper might be able to effect a change in leadership just as easily as a full scale invasion. Course the US doesn't assassinate people (yeah right) so our Slavic friends might do the trick...

The new Bush Mastercard
$5.79 for a sniper's lunch at McDonald's after taking out an evil dictator

$420,000,000,000 for invading an entire country to take out an evil dictator

Successfully installing a democratic government led by fanatical Islamists with close ties to and support from Iran with oil $ fueling an insurgency...

priceless.

The bush mastercard. For all those occasions where the future burden of massive debt won't kill you, but a fabricated attack on Los Angeles will.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
Apparently the crazy Iranian President today rejected calls from Europe and the US to back down on their Uranium enrichment, including rejecting an offer from Russia to have uranium enriched in Russia and then used in Iran. He also threatened to withdraw from the Non-Proliferation Treaty...

Clock is ticking, IMHO. I do think this one will be a more multi-national action though, probably more along the lines of Gulf War I.

That is their right. The only sanction against them that's lawful is economic embargo's, unless the UN Security Council specifically authorizes military action. If either the US government, or Israel, acts unilaterally, it will be another war crime.

Are Bush and the Bush'ists crazy and irresponsible enough to act, of course.

Will that stop Iran, no, it will accelerate any plan they and other middle eastern countries in obtaining nukes for self defense.

[Nathans_Dad]

Yes, it is their right to do as they please. And it is the right of the rest of the world to invade and whoop their collective arses if we don't like what they decide to do...

And again, I think that if Iran pushes forward with building nukes, the timeline will likely include sanctions and whatnot, but I have a sneaking suspicion that those crazy Iranians aren't going to roll over from some sanctions.

Funny thing is that this time it will likely be the Germans and the French who ask the world to take care of Iran since they would be in range of Iranian nukes...shoe would be on the other foot, so to speak.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Iran has 3 cards to play: Russia, China and








wait for it












Iraq.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
The bush mastercard. $5.79 for a sniper's lunch at McDonald's after taking out an evil dictator

Its so funny when the liberals forget history...

Kennedy and Castro... how many times did he try to kill the head of another country?

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by fastpat
That is their right. The only sanction against them that's lawful is economic embargo's, unless the UN Security Council specifically authorizes military action. If either the US government, or Israel, acts unilaterally, it will be another war crime.

Are Bush and the Bush'ists crazy and irresponsible enough to act, of course.

Will that stop Iran, no, it will accelerate any plan they and other middle eastern countries in obtaining nukes for self defense.

Mr know it all, what would you recommend doing? Build a wall around our country and hunker down?

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by Joeaksa
Mr know it all, what would you recommend doing? Build a wall around our country and hunker down?

fastpat thinks we should reduce our military by over 80%...I think he wants to invite the Chinese over for a permanent stay, or simply collapse the country.

[jorian]

Rick,

Dig the new avatar. (pun intended)