Free Speech Should Be Completly Free & Uncensored - But Only for Those with Brains!

[daleflesburg]

Lube,

You missed my point, and my question.

What would your response be if a high potentate in the Catholic or Lutheran church offered a million dollare reward for the killing of someone?

What should our response or the Dutch response be if a high potentate in the Catholic or Lutheran church offered a million dollare reward for the killing of someone?

Should not the Muslim world's response be the same?

[1967 R50/2]

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
Say you had the majority of people that no matter what you said or how you said it they took an analytical look at it (like they were emotionless - think Spock from Star Trek). Would the consequence be the same? Of course not. The "Spock" people could practice total free speech becuase they would consider words that held merit and dismiss nonsense - yet those with that sort of intellect would not act recklessly with there words but if someone did they would quickly dismiss it.

However the reality of the situation is:

1. People are emotional beings and logic often does not figure into their actions. This is the nature of humanity.
2. That's why Spock is a fictional character.

Therefore, if you shouted "Fire!" in a crowded theater, you probably be taken away in handcuffs. I doubt that the reasoning that everyone else isn't logical would prevail at the court hearing.

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally posted by daleflesburg
..What would your response be if a high potentate in the Catholic or Lutheran church offered a million dollare reward for the killing of someone?

What should our response or the Dutch response be if a high potentate in the Catholic or Lutheran church offered a million dollare reward for the killing of someone?

Should not the Muslim world's response be the same?

Thou shall not kill - I think the Pope is pretty clear on that stance.

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally posted by 1967 R50/2
However the reality of the situation is:

1. People are emotional beings and logic often does not figure into their actions. This is the nature of humanity.
2. That's why Spock is a fictional character.

Therefore, if you shouted "Fire!" in a crowded theater, you probably be taken away in handcuffs. I doubt that the reasoning that everyone else isn't logical would prevail at the court hearing.

True true - because our laws are focused on the minimal level of humanity. Unless we decide to raise the bar in other areas - then we will always legislate to the bottom rung.

I do not mean to take passion and emotion out of our lives, it just has to a mature dealing with things and the way the people in the middle beast are actins, it seems like a 6 year old having a fit.

[speeder]

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
Thou shall not kill - I think the Pope is pretty clear on that stance.

How does the Pope feel about the nuclear anilation of 100s of millions of innocent people, ("turn ME into glass"), to satisfy the blood-lust of some drunken yahoos in Texas who don't know jack**** about the world, but they're mad as hell about them damn ragheads, dagnabit!!

Come on, the Dukes of Hazzard plan has been tried on one of the softest targets in the ME, and it didn't work too well now did it?

And if you're going to tell me that those millions over there are not innocent because they do not stand up and denounce the extremists, give me a break. That would be an example of stupid free speech. They would have the life expectancy of a flock of geese in a jet engine.

No, sorry. What we need is some reasonably intelligent leadership right now. I know that's not what you want to hear. As for the blood-thirsty Arabs, we've managed to coexist w/ them for eons and ass-rape each other for oil in a mutually beneficial arrangement until the Bush monkey came along and took a dump.

[M.D. Holloway]

Denis - I'm pretty sure the Pope would not want to have anyone bombed or throw a holy war ion any direction. Not sure the same could be said for any ol Iman.

Maybe a good dose of some other cultures coming in looking for work would help. The Mexicans are used to hot weather. What say we ship a few million over there to tidy up the joint and work in some start up factories. Most those arabs like spicey food, I bet some pico de would go over big. Heck, while we are at it, why not import in about 20 million Chinese as well? Mix a little of the mountain relgion into the dune theme sure would diversify things. The Chinese want to get into the oil business, why not bring them right to the source?

Right now they are setting up a zone defence - best why to beat a zone is to flood it.

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally posted by speeder
...to satisfy the blood-lust of some drunken yahoos in Texas who don't know jack**** about the world, but they're mad as hell about them damn ragheads, dagnabit!!

Well, you did get the Texas part right but thats about it.