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I found it, seems a touch different picture than you painted.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4262336.stm

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The fact that you, and others in this thread, think that a demand for lawful Constitutional government and a cessation of global hegemony is out there or bizarre is what is wrong with the thinking by many, but far from most, in America.

Well, I fully support lawful Constitutinal government, and I suppose you could construe the American position in the world as hegemonic if you were a pessimist. I tend to see the good in things more than dwell on the negatives to the point of obsession.

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America is not evil. The US government is evil and has been for a long time.

I asked what the source of this opinion was.

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I began to realize that many issues that continually plagued the world in general and America in particular were not because of the liberal-conservative dichotomy; but was a result of government itself. The road to hell being lined by Democrats on one side and Republicans on the other, with Americans and people around the globe suffering from the activities of the US government. This is not a position I arrived at recently, it began more than 10 years ago.

What made you realize this? What was the experience that opened your eyes?

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Originally posted by lendaddy
What was the outcome ?

Link?

This was actual news, not a wacko site claim I hope? I can't find it.

This http://tinyurl.com/r8vux is a link to a list of related articles to the British incident I mentioned. It raised quite a stink, particularly when the men's commander stormed the jail in which they were allegedly being held, knocking down walls and injuring dozens of Iraqi's in the process.

The British government, to my knowledge, has never said what was going on or if they did it wasn't plausible.

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Originally posted by fastpat

The British government, to my knowledge, has never said what was going on or if they did it wasn't plausible.

This is roughly what I found as well.

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Originally posted by fastpat

I began to realize that many issues that continually plagued the world in general and America in particular were not because of the liberal-conservative dichotomy; but was a result of government itself. The road to hell being lined by Democrats on one side and Republicans on the other, with Americans and people around the globe suffering from the activities of the US government. This is not a position I arrived at recently, it began more than 10 years ago.

Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Lord, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: I... no, no. I don't, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Uh, Jack, Jack, listen, tell me, tell me, Jack. When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?
General Jack D. Ripper: Well, I, uh... I... I... first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.
General Jack D. Ripper: Yes, a uh, a profound sense of fatigue... a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I... I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.
General Jack D. Ripper: I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: No.
General Jack D. Ripper: But I... I do deny them my essence.

Coincidence?
:D

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Originally posted by dhoward
Mandrake, Coincidence?
:D

That's hilarious, son, now off to bed with you, your mother will be in soon to tuck you in.

Thought you might get a chuckle.
SmileWavy