Saddam Translator: ABC Reinterpreted Tapes
 

The FBI translator who supplied the 12 hours of Saddam Hussein audiotapes excerpted by ABC's "Nightline" Wednesday night now says the network discarded his translations and went with a less threatening version of the Iraqi dictator's comments.

"What you heard on ABC News was their translation," former U.N. weapons inspector Bill Tierney told ABC Radio's Sean Hannity on Thursday.

"They came up with something different on a key element regarding terrorism in the United States," Tierney insisted.

In the "Nightline" version of the 1996 recording, Saddam predicts that Washington, D.C., would be hit by terrorists. But he adds that Iraq would have nothing to do with the attack.

Tierney says, however, that what Saddam actually said was much more sinister. "He was discussing his intent to use chemical weapons against the United States and use proxies so it could not be traced back to Iraq," he told Hannity.
In a passage not used by "Nightline," Tierney says Saddam declares: "Terrorism is coming. ... In the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction. What if we consider this technique, with smuggling?"

Tierney's full translations are set for release this weekend by The Intelligence Group in Washington, D.C.



NewsMax (cause the media has been busy gettin' Cheney)

1. Saddam admits possession and intent to enhance WMD production, debunking the American left's WMD argument.

2. ABC lies and spins the facts to water down the story.

"Terrorism is coming. ... In the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction. What if we consider this technique, with smuggling?" -- Saddam Hussein (hero to the left)

You see how we are all manipulated by the media? This should be front page news for weeks. "Bush was right!", plastered all over newsprint and talked about nonstop on the talking head shows...Instead, since it is embarassing to the left and the activist media, it gets memory-hole treatment...Even us on the right forget about it if it isn't being shoved down our throats on a daily basis.

I saw Tierney on C-Span a few days ago discussing this, as well as his systematic encounters with Islamic infiltrators within the translating corps overseas. It is one thing for the media not to feature any one of these particular stories on the front page -- astonishing but understandable -- but it is quite another for them to ignore the entire document and tape translation story altogether. I've not seen one piece on it outside of Stephen Hayes work in Weekly Standard, and this piece by ABC (which appears to be adulterated). It is an enormous story, if only for its primary sources -- Hussein's own documents and testimony. But the Left's beachhead of "no WMD" has been established -- nothing will be permitted to breach it. They have far too much invested in this, and will continue to marginalize any developing stories as fringe and fanciful far-right attempts to redeem a disaster. The true story is complicated but also quite predictable --a skein of interests intent on keeping, concealing and ultimately trafficing in WMD. But it works on a much simpler level to me: that is, to conceive of a character like Hussein absent such an intention violates some basic, universal truth of character, which if you don't understand in theory, you need only to have seen the man from a distance over the past 30 years to understand in reality.

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Unfortunately too many here can not fathom a ruthless dictator working in super sneaky stealth mode, with massive hidden agenda --unless that person is GW Bush :rolleyes:

Looks like all them media Democrats lies have been debunked. Democrats lied to undermine a sitting President during wartime.

Democrats lied while poor Iraqis died.

I said, from the beginning, that anyone who thinks for one microsecond that Saddam was not attached in a very substantial way to terror in general, and Al Qaeda and OBL specifically, they have their head firmly planted in their a$$, or they have an agenda. GW Bush will have his day, and the left will eat their crow.

The beachhead of no WMD's was established before the invasion by the UN Weapons Inspection Teams, then post invasion by the US government weapons search teams, who spent more than 300 million dollars in their futile search.

There were never WMD's in Iraq at the time of the invasion, or after 1998.

And last, there is no connection whatsoever between Iraq and the terrorist organization that is believed to have planned and funded the attacks on American targets on 9/11/2001; and there never was.

Just in case your "fact finding", "research" techniques are proven wrong, it can't hurt to save this quote to make fun of later! SmileWavy

originally posted by fastpat
In a passage not used by "Nightline," Tierney says Saddam declares: "Terrorism is coming. ... In the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction. What if we consider this technique, with smuggling?"


It's funny, Pat, you make statements as fact, when they are simply your uninformed opinion. It's a lot like the media's method; simply continue to make false statements repeatedly until they become truth in the mind of the listener.

Hey Mul, if there is thar's gold in them tapes, why isn't Bush pimpin' it on national TV, instead of that cock-and-bull story about terr'ists crashin' jumbo jets into Space Mountain or some *****? I've got stuff in my fridge with more legs than that story.

If they were the shiznit, GWB would interrupt the women's figure skating coverage (I know that would piss you off) to do a big phat "I told you so." Talk about a 'git yer ass out of the sling' card!

If these tapes were anything more than NeoCon Keyboard Groupie wank material, GWB would be all over it like white on rice; his poll numbers could use a nice little boost.

The fact that he hasn't is not the media's fault. He's keeping his mouth shut 'cause ain't got jack *****.

If you think differently, don't waste your breath telling us, tell him. Don't delay - this is a matter of national security!!! You obviously have better sources, which allow you to make more gradiose claims than GWB himself can, so why not help the brotha out and kick down with the intel?

In case you don't have the contact info handy:
(from http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/)

Contacting the White House

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The White House
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Washington, DC 20500

Phone Numbers

Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
FAX: 202-456-2461

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E-Mail: comments@whitehouse.gov.

Dude, try to keep up. GW is in fact too stupid .. . or stubborn (more likely) to cash in, and flaunt favorable info.

Mul, you are and your boyz are, collectively, simply terrifying.

I realise you will take that as a compliment. I know this, by virtue of the exercising of the same feroicious logic exhibited when you ask people to prove that there are NOT wmds in Iraq.

Dear Jesus.

Well there's a logical argument that no WMD ever existed in Iraq. :rolleyes:

stuart...I warn you (no, not a threat, just an eternal reminder), the name of Jesus is not to be taken lightly.

If you walk in the darkness the light escapes you.

Howdy Glenn!

Hey, J.

Can you believe these guys? They actually believe that Saddam had let that whole "Gulf war" thang slide in to the past. They believe that Saddam was stripped of ANY power (even though he had millions flowing thru the UN . . and an -in- with the frogs to hold of any UN actions against Iraq. ) But Saddam? . . . these jokers believe Saddam wouldn't work secretly to SCREW the US.

They have to believe that Glenn. They have mountains of lies and intentional malicious distortions that will come crumbling down and bury them if that lie is un-buttressed.

Watch, their pathology will continue to deny, distort and insist that the facts are indeed, not the facts. There is no truth that can creep into their delusion.

I'll certainly take that on board, Mul. And thank you. The day of redemption is at hand.

In the meantime, while we wait, do you have some evidence of Saddam's WMD capability hitherto unknown that causes you to persist with this redundant argument, when Mr Bush himself, god bless him, has repudiated it?

As you are intent on a neo con, Xtian Right circle jerk, let me contribute the biscuit and wish you good night.

If I die before I wake...

Tierney says, however, that what Saddam actually said was much more sinister. "He was discussing his intent to use chemical weapons against the United States and use proxies so it could not be traced back to Iraq," he told Hannity.
In a passage not used by "Nightline," Tierney says Saddam declares: "Terrorism is coming. ... In the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction. What if we consider this technique, with smuggling?"

Well put Zoanas....Indeed. It borders on the psychotic.

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Iraq�s Chemical Warfare Program

By God, spare us your evil. Pick up your goods and leave. We do not need an atomic bomb. We have the dual chemical. Let them take note of this. We have the dual chemical. It exists in Iraq.1

1 Saddam speaking about the Israeli, US, and UK intelligence services and Iraq�s development of binary CW munitions in a speech on 2 April 1990. (Foreign Broadcast Information Service 021329 April 1990).


Key Findings

Saddam never abandoned his intentions to resume a CW effort when sanctions were lifted and conditions were judged favorable:

* Saddam and many Iraqis regarded CW as a proven weapon against an enemy�s superior numerical strength, a weapon that had saved the nation at least once already�during the Iran-Iraq war�and contributed to deterring the Coalition in 1991 from advancing to Baghdad.

While a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered, ISG judges that Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991. There are no credible indications that Baghdad resumed production of chemical munitions thereafter, a policy ISG attributes to Baghdad�s desire to see sanctions lifted, or rendered ineffectual, or its fear of force against it should WMD be discovered.

* The scale of the Iraqi conventional munitions stockpile, among other factors, precluded an examination of the entire stockpile; however, ISG inspected sites judged most likely associated with possible storage or deployment of chemical weapons.

Iraq�sCW program was crippled by the Gulf war and the legitimate chemical industry, which suffered under sanctions, only began to recover in the mid-1990s. Subsequent changes in the management of key military and civilian organizations, followed by an influx of funding and resources, provided Iraq with the ability to reinvigorate its industrial base.

* Poor policies and management in the early 1990s left the Military Industrial Commission (MIC) financially unsound and in a state of almost complete disarray.
* Saddam implemented a number of changes to the Regime�s organizational and programmatic structures after the departure of Husayn Kamil.
* Iraq�s acceptance of the Oil-for-Food (OFF) program was the foundation of Iraq�s economic recovery and sparked a flow of illicitly diverted funds that could be applied to projects for Iraq�s chemical industry.


There's more here...

http://www.jacques-itch.com/images/SaddamWTC_01.jpg

A mass murderer with delusions of American genocide...Only a fool could deny this.

It seems that the "Saddam was clean" crowd, are simply not too savvy to the habits and motivations of murderous dictators.

. . .but, then again, I suppose it is a pretty big reach . .. I mean if Saddam says .... :rolleyes:

I guess we will never know the whole truth, as Sandy Berger absconded with it for his President Clinton.

Where is/was the media?...Where was/is their intrepid courage uncovering this conspiracy to defraud the country of a full investigation of what led to 9-11?...Where is the hounding and dogging of Sandy Bergler and Bill Clinton regarding this most egregious of crimes?...what was so important as to motivate multiple trips to the National Archives and multiple felonious thefts of sensitive documents surrounding terrorism?

Cheney shot a friend...CALL THE PRESS!, GET THE ROPE!

Keep on digging liberals, keep on diggin'...Have faith, the hole can get deeper.

The picture is interesting. Whoever painted it must have been unafraid that Saddam would take offense at the accusation.

Ya think?...The picture was either commissioned by Saddam or was a tribute. Either way it at the very least validates what even the left self-interestedly refuses to admit, that the operation was just and the justification sound.

The painting was neither comminsioned by Hussein nor is it a tribute. The giveaway is the cigar he's holding, a major no-no in an Islamic country, even one as secular as Iraq. You simply didn't find any pictures like it anywhere prior to the invasion.

The picture is either by someone who was opposed to Hussein's fatcat propensities, or commisioned by one of the soldier's holding it from a street artist.

I'd bet on the latter.

In any case, it's utterly meaningless as far as being evidence of anything on a strategic level, and only a very silly person would intimate that it is such.

You're brilliant, Pat. I figure'd you'd at least google your BS before you spew it.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/176435_m.jpg http://www.cigarren-portal.de/conten...sein-cigar.jpg

ROFLMAO!

Even in uniform! You crack me up, Pat. You sounded so serious, too!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1140924474.jpg


In fact, now that I look at this one closer, it appears to be the exact pose and outfit for the painting!

Two things. First, when you find something that you really want to include with a post you've already made, just use the edit key to make the addition, you don't need two posts.

More importantly, those ingenius photos you've posted aren't for the masses in Iraq.

Hussein could care less if you or I saw then. I've seen videos of him in from of his cabinet at a podium with a cigar at length. The average guy in Iraq never saw that.

You could buy a beer or drinks in night clubs in Baghdad prior to the Bush'ist invasion, you can't do that now; but you could prior to March, 2003. Outside Baghdad, not only could you not do that, many people didn't know you could anyplace in Iraq.

You gots to know yer stuff, ole N.A.S..

You're hilarious! He's a closet smoker! He puts people through shredders but he doesn't want them to see him smoke!

This was priceless, Pat, thanks!

There's just one of your problems, N. A. S., you believe all of the agitprop created out of nothing by the Chalabi group, a so-called group of Iraqi dissidents on the US government payroll for more than 20 odd years. Their sole purpose, it turns out, was to gin up stories to persuade the gullible to support not only this latest war on the Iraqi people, but the first one too. Remember the story about the Iraqi's throwing Kuwaiti babies out of incubators afer they invaded Kuwait?

Completely false, never happened.

More junk news.

As far as you laughing, I really don't undestand it when there's been more than 100,000 civilian Iraqi casualties due to policies that YOU support.

I see no humor in that.