You cheap bastard.

but what about the anal sex thing?

I think prostitution should be legal. Heck, if I can pay for a woman to rub on my shoulders and back to make me feel good/better, why can't I pay someone to get me off?

The only real social burden or drawback I can see is the spread of disease. But heck, I could die driving my car to work, and I take precautions to prevent that.

I don't think I'd ever actually use a prostitute... I'd rather download some pr0n and rub one out myself. hehehe it's cheaper!

Matt, you're a good man.

pr0n?????

pr0n is the internet/kid way of saying porn.

And I work with computers :rolleyes:

When you go home, all your **** will be gone.

Supe,

If she is a muse then she has a good head on her shoulders and is using her body as needed to make life work. She will not do this forever but it suits her needs at this time and place in life.

A very good friends wife is a muse. Wonderful lady and real character. We got along from the first minute we met and her husband does not really understand it but knows that he can trust us so its not an issue.

We are all being called in one way or the other around the world. She is smart enough and free enough to follow it...

Joe

I am an admitted cynic,

But I believe that politicians create black markets for one reason, and that is to create a source for "under the table" payoffs IE "bribes" to be paid to them and their colleagues by the "criminals" that work the black markets.

This applies to prostitution, porno, drugs, gambling, and now even tobacco. By pushing any product out of the daylight and into the back alleys, they create a black market, and therefore invite the "criminal" element in, or they make criminals out of people who were formerly law abiding.

Black markets are not created by criminals. Black markets are only created by politicians.

Think about it. Should not a "free market" society be "free". Should not the free market be allowed to determine which products or services are offered? If there is demand they will be offered, if not they will go away on their own.

Does anybody believe that the "war on drugs" is "winnable"?

What about the upcoming war on tobacco?

We need wise politicians. Maybe they are wiser in Germany.

I'm in the regulate (health) and tax crowd. Men(and women) want it and someone is willing to provide it; what is the problem? Of all the arguements against legalizing it, Mike H's is the best. I had never thought about the whole quality of product view. I can see it now, Consumer Reports annual How to Pick the right Ho Edition, could be their best seller ever.

Grady,
I like the way you think.

Clearly, there are two other outstanding questions that need to be addressed:
1) Did Supe get ransacked?
2) Will anybody comment on the issue of buggery and the legality of it?

Re #2, I guess no one here cares if it's legal or illegal.

How much does a good blow job cost these days?

cruz Harry Hines Blvd with a $20 and get lost in the mouth love! (not that I would know...)

Maybe Dietrich can tell us. It must have been great if it made him steer that Enzo off the road...

It's getting hard out here for a pimp.

yo'z gots to take ofv doz no shoes an putz on doz ho shoes!

There is such thing as a bad one? :)

Actually, I think that it varies w/ geographical region, then you've got your discount packages such as Auto Club membership/born-again Christian/etc...

Is swallow extra?

If it flies, floats, or ****s, rent it.

Clearly not many pseudo moralists on this board. Very happy with the outcome. Of course, with 99% men... but then even Isa carries a pragmatic view on the subject.

I think would definitely change the dating sceene.....for the better.

rjp

So, Markus - you planning a trip to Tallinn in the next couple of weeks, or have you just come back and want help to clear your conscience ;)

You referring to the Swedish movie "Torsk på Tallin" ? If you have not seen it you should. Its a cynical, humorous movie about the lonely men in Northern Sweden where the women are few. They go on chartered buss trips to Tallin with promises to find the "love of their life". Very tragicomic.

And No, I was merely conducting a survey on the moral standards of the petrol heads on this site. :D

One word: Teeth

Another consideration......

If a prostitute is physically attacked, it goes unreported. If her life is in danger, it goes unreported. She very well can't report the attack if she was attacked while doing something illegal.......

By being illegal, she at greater risk.

Thats exactly the German argument (and I tend to agree).

You guys are funny. Joe, you're surprising.

Thom, when I was taking an antidepressant I tried one of those medications because there was a frustrating side-effect. Worked like a charm. Today, I no longer need the hardener. Let me repeat that. These days, the ol' equipment is back to its usual high, reliable level of performance.

Mark, I don't think my physical ***** is in any danger.

This lady reports that business sex is the safest kind. Apparently, clients are commonly squeemish about body fluids.

She also reports that the profession is indeed not safe. There are buttheads out there. With money to burn and a chip on their shoulder. My friend screens pretty carefully.

I do not share others' belief that legalization of things like drugs and sex would cause the sky to fall. Drug abuse is not a crime problem. It is a health problem. And the current legal prohibitions only make it harder to treat that problem effectively as a health problem. I've never been comfortable with victimless "crimes."

But getting back to the sex thing......many people will assert, and correctly I suspect, that the 20th century invention that has changed our lives the most was not the automobile, the television, the computer, the electric light, etc. It was The Pill. Society is currently adjusting to that. Extramarital sex is not as costly as it used to be. Potentially making casual encounters more common. Traditional roles and taboos are fading. This is what I am finding as a fairly newly divorced person. Things are different now, compared to when I began my long term relationship. Paradigms are changing. Relationships and communications are more mature and direct.

From what I hear, it's hard out there for a pimp...

It's already happened in San Francisco, except that refer to themselves as Sex Workers, and don't readily admit to being whores.

It's already happened in San Francisco, except that refer to themselves as Sex Workers, and don't readily admit to being whores. [/B][/QUOTE]

But are they as extortionist as the NEA?

It's already happened in San Francisco, except that refer to themselves as Sex Workers, and don't readily admit to being whores. [/B][/QUOTE]

What next? Politicians calling themselves "elected officials"?

Here in my area there was a john who would call up the working ladies, make an appointment then meet them. After he finished up he would knock them around a bit then steal the money he just paid them for their time. This happened a few times and word got around the area. There is a bulletin board that they use and it worked very well.

The ladies laid a trap for him because he targeted the same type of lady everytime. He fell right into it and is now serving time in the "house of bars" so to speak. They found someone at the Police dept who could care less if they were working girls but wanted to end this jerks career.

The professional girls out there should be much safer. The ones found in titty bars are usually the ones paying off the harley payment, or their drug habbit and for a bit extra will do anything needed, and usually "bareback" as well. Thats how diseases are spread for the most part.

I used to fly an old gent (70 or so) from Switzerland to Nice France every few weeks. He went down to see his favourite lady friend. She was a pro and lived in a place that none of us on this forum could afford. Several times we flew her out to meet him somewhere and she was the nicest thing we had ever laid eyes on. When you get to this level in the world, safety and disease is not a factor. Sure made him smile...

You are correct about the pill. It made women independent and able to control their bodies in a way not possible before. It also made them feel that they could enjoy sex without worrying about having a child later. Life changed for everyone. Personally the 60's and 70's still bring a smile to my face whenever I think about it and the pill is a large part of it!

I've thought about this quite a bit. Here's how I feel about prostitution....

I'm ready for the hot chicks to start paying me for services rendered. ;)

Interestingly, the birth control pill was developed in 1960 and was legalized for married couples in 1965, but was NOT legalized for single women until 7 years later in 1972. I'm sure the psychotic prudes of the Religious Right had something to do with that, just as they're holding up "Plan B" right now.

Yeah, I'm sure the minority party held that one up. Republicans did not control the House or the Senate during any of that time and only had the WH again starting in 1969.

And the christians have been running the show since, I dunno, 1642?

The Republican and Democrats of the time did not fall along the lines of Liberal/Conservative as they do now. In the late 1970's with Ronald Reagan, the party started resembling what it is today. A lot of conservative and religious democrats started voting Republican due the increasingly liberal agenda from the Democrats.

From the 1800's through to the mid 1900's, Republican/Democrat was a North/South thing. From the late 60's through until the early 90's, our congressman in NYS was a conservative Democrat.

My Father was a registered Democrat (From Texas/Oklahoma) and voted that way until 1968. I'm not sure exactly when he registered as a Republican, but I would bet it wasn't until a few years later.

You need to look at the History a little closer. The Puritans were supposed to settle in Virginia, but their Captain couldn't Navigate and they ended up in what is now Massachusettes. It's not exactly known as a religious/puritanical state these days.

I think you'll find that the Christian fundamentalist movements are a backlash against a percevied attack on "tradational" christian values.

But to your point, the Christians have been running the show in Northern America since the 1490's!