Red,
They may have started there but moved down and out. The Northeast is an entry port of all sorts over the past 300 years - this diluted any strong fundamentalism movement that could have ever taken hold. Such mores and folkways took a stronger hold on the rural farming communities of the Midwest and the south. The Northeast would always appear more progressive up until the industrial revolution took a string hold and unions became a common staple. Mix that with a strong democratic machine (thanks Joe Kennedy Sr.) and you have the present day Peoples Republic of Massataxes.

Yup, that was the point I was making. They aren't that way anymore. Rhode Island was founded by someone who wanted to espouse a different religous view and found it difficult in Massachusettes

It's yet another example of why and how the unConstitutional FDA harms people and should be abolished forthwith.

The Commerce Clause was not written to permit any federal government bans or restrictions on any product or thing. The current interpretation of the CC was to enhance government power, not to protect anyone.

And another interesting thread bites the dust. Didn't anyone ever tell you that sex was more interesting than politics. :rolleyes:

Les

Here's a free clue; if you've come here for sex, you made a terrible mistake.

I say legalize it, regulate it, and tax it.

People say the woman is the victim in prostitution.

If that is true, why are we trying and punishing the victims of the crime?

I came here in hopes of a few pics of some professionals that are a few of our proud boys favs! At least the vegas delgation could have come forth. Heck even the dogs from LA or the Bay - no, take that back, the pros from the bay have too much Adams apple for my like'n.

I thought I screwed a good hooker when in my early twenties. Thirty years and much experience later I'm now convinced I screwed the greatest hooker in the whole world. It started as being her baby sitter at a convention in Syracuse because I was the young'en and there was serious drinking to accomplish. I more or less watched her get just about every partied out guy off in 5-10 minutes door to door. If he couldn't get it up soon she sent them off with a peck, a smile, and a welcome back asap. She was a NYC dancer that was between jobs. She wrapped 2 arms around your back and locked 2 legs around your hips when you're over her on extended arms and knees. She worked out on your dick and you didn't move. This dancer could dance.

She did this for hours, take a break, then more hours, etc. By day two there was a waiting line that was a party unto itself. Then there was a waiting line and appointments. Others brought hookers but i had the best. I was the most popular guy in the place. Even the hotel manager kissed my ass.

About 200-300 guys rented this whole motel so no strangers. None of the guys made any money and the girls controlled the whole thing. It was a great scene.

http://www.murdzplace.com/CNN.htm

AP) -- Women who perform the act of fellatio and swallow semen on a regular basis, one to two times a week, may reduce their risk of breast cancer by up to 40 percent, a North Carolina State University study found.
Doctors had never suspected a link between the act of fellatio and breast cancer, but new research being performed at North Carolina State University is starting to suggest that there could be an important link between the two.

In a study of over 15,000 women suspected of having performed regular fellatio and swallowed the ejaculatory fluid, over the past ten years, the researchers found that those actually having performed the act regularly, one to two times a week, had a lower occurance of breast cancer than those who had not. There was no increased risk, however, for those who did not regularly perform.

"I think it removes the last shade of doubt that fellatio is actually a healthy act," said Dr. A.J. Kramer of Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, who was not involved in the research. "I am surprised by these findings, but am also excited that the researchers may have discovered a relatively easy way to lower the occurance of breast cancer in women."

The University researchers stressed that, though breast cancer is relatively uncommon, any steps taken to reduce the risk would be a wise decision.

"Only with regular occurance will your chances be reduced, so I encourage all women out there to make fellatio an important part of their daily routine," said Dr. Helena Shifteer, one of the researchers at the University. "Since the emergence of the research, I try to fellate at least once every other night to reduce my chances."

The study is reported in Friday's Journal of Medical Research.

In 1991, 43,582 women died of breast cancer, as reported by the National Cancer Institute.

Dr. Len Lictepeen, deputy chief medical officer for the American Cancer Society, said women should not overlook or "play down" these findings.

"This will hopefully change women's practice and patterns, resulting in a severe drop in the future number of cases," Lictepeen said.

Sooner said the research shows no increase in the risk of breast cancer in those who are, for whatever reason, not able to fellate regularly.

"There's definitely fertile ground for more research. Many have stepped forward to volunteer for related research now in the planning stages," he said.

Almost every woman is, at some point, going to perform the act of fellatio, but it is the frequency at which this event occurs that makes the difference, say researchers. Also key seems to be the protein and enzyme count in the semen, but researchers are again waiting for more test data.

The reasearch consisted of two groups, 6,246 women ages 25 to 45 who had performed fellatio and swallowed on a regular basis over the past five to ten years, and 9,728 women who had not or did not swallow. The group of women who had performed and swallowed had a breast cancer rate of 1.9 percent and the group who had not had a breast cancer rate of 10.4 percent.

"The findings do suggest that there are other causes for breast cancer besides the absence of regular fellatio," Shafteer said. "It's a cause, not THE cause."

Are there any related studies for prostrate cancer in men?

What about breast milk? I would think it is only fair, if she swallows your fluids, the least you could do is recip!

Thats just amazing. I can´t leave this thread for even a day before it takes a kinky turn. :D

Naw, some guys just lead lives of not-so-quiet desperation.

That could be a start but I confess my thoughts were closer to the gutter - about 18" closer;)

The gutter. Is that what we're calling it now? ;)

Why not! All is fair in love and war!

As long as I have a face, she has a place to sit! :) Always did like Taco's IHMO...

Straight from a guy that works off one dimensional quotes

I hate to do it, I really do, but here's what Snopes had to say about BJs and breast cancer:

No, this wasn't a real CNN page (or Associated Press article), nor did North Carolina State University perform a study on the connection between fellatio and breast cancer. (If nothing else, the names of the doctors cited in the article — "Dr. B.J. Sooner," "Dr. Inserta Shafteer," "Dr. Len Lictepeen" — should have given it away as a hoax.)

This article was a spoof by Brandon Williamson, a junior at North Carolina State University (NCSU), who mocked it up to look like a genuine CNN.com article and made it available on the web through his NCSU account in September 2003.

After the article was popularized on the web in October 2003, reaching the inboxes of many people who failed to realize it was a spoof (and fooling some foreign newspapers, who apparently ran the article as a genuine news story), CNN and the Associated Press (AP) claimed it constituted an infringment of their intellectual property rights. Accordingly, Mr. Williamson eventually removed the graphical and textual references to CNN, AP, and NCSU from his article and posted an editorial explaining the reasons behind the changes. (The original version of the article can still be found on various web sites.)

According to Michele DeCamp, who interviewed the spoof's author, "for anyone that might be confused about the validity of the article, Williamson maintains his own naivete. 'I have no proof whatsoever that the two [fellatio and breast cancer] have anything to do with each other.'"

yet one more reason why I hope my wife doesn't read these posts!

You, and others, can't really handle more than one dimension per post.

I swear there are times that fastpast is an AI program yet where is the I? All retorts are always of the same stuff.

A man didn't come home one night. The next day he told his wife that he had slept over at a friend's house. The woman called her husband's 10 best friends. Eight of them confirmed that he had slept over, and two claimed that he was still there.

Put it this way:

Could any of you Gentlemen be persuaded to let your wife go out and make money " the easy way" ?

Sure! She could do it one time and when she returned home her things would be on the front doorstep. I would not do it to any woman and cannot see any way that I would allow a woman to do it while married to me.

Joe

No shiit, Joe ! That was a low odds question. :D

That's just selfish. What about sharing, huh?

legally, it can't be stopped, so might as well regulate it , for health, safety , crime prevention reasons

morally , i think it's terrible that it exists

i've been in a cathouse once, real drunk, half dragged in there by my drinking buddy
(very rich kid, who turned out had some issues with cathouses and uncontrollable desires), and was to curious or drunk to say "no way , that's wrong"

did end up going upstairs, and i just talked and ended up listening to that girl...i felt sick and depressed for several days


those women who say they look at it , as just a job
i don't believe them, nobody want's a complaining whore, so they just keep up appearances to not chase away clientele, those who do it long enough , grown enough thick skin , go emotionally numb some more then the other

i'm sure there are some proper nympho's out there, who actually enjoy beeing banged all the time, but those are a minority, and even those, it's not quite normal, isn't it a psychiatric definaition in the first place?"nymphomania" ?

most women in prostitution , did not have a childhood dream of selling their body... they got suckered in , in times of weaknes.. and a lot of them if not most, can't get out because of money problems, drug problems, or just because they aren't strong or smart enough to do something else...

The Muse is gone now. And Mark, my stuff is still here.

Very interesting woman. She probably fits into the nympho category though again, she and I had neither a romantic nor sexual relationship. She boinks with men (and women) for one of two reasons. One is chemistry. The other is exchange (money or whatever). Chemistry has little to do with appearance and attractiveness (plainly, since she was able to keep her hands off Superman). She leaves a trail of happy and/or exhausted people in her path and usually with some personal growth matters to consider. FWIW, she does not use drugs. In fact, she also has no criminal record of any kind. I don't even think she's had a speeding ticket.

Stijn, she does not whine, though her work is emotionally and spiritually exhausting. She sacrifices for her craft. But again, her principle craft is not prostitution. Once again, this woman is a Muse. Very difficult to explain. The lives she touches get shaken up. She makes people see things that were hidden and she is a catalyst for personal growth. And for the naysayers and skeptics, I will offer this: She is, among other things, clairvoyant. She denies this, denies the hocus pocus theory saying that people give subtle signals that she picks up. All I can say is that it is spooky, to say the least, when I ask myself a question in my mind and she speaks the answer out loud. Or when I'd have a thought and she'd ask "What are you thinking right now about your friend Joe and what brought him into your mind?" Spooky.

She even said I would be viewing people differently now. She was right. I can't read peoples' minds but I can tell if they are awake or not. Few are. This is getting to be an exciting life, and I appreciate what she has done for my enlightenment. At any given time she is doing this sort of thing for several other people and this continues wherever she goes. She says there are others. If you guys meet one, fasten your seat belt.

What did she charge you for no sex?

supe, hasn't read your post there, so i wasn't talking about the "special cases" , i'm talking prostetution in general , frankly this muse stuff, it's not something i ever heard off, sounds a bit flaky to me , but i'll leave it at that, i don't know the woman , or anybody like it..

a muse , in my dictionary is an inspirational person , like this woman was the muse of this or that painter... no empathic or whatever hocus pocus.. just a woman who to that artist was an inspiration...

and then there is the ancient greek , the mythological muse

what you call muse, i've never heard off...

don't get me wrong , i don't diss the women in prostitution , i just find the whole industry a sad one to be in ,but i have very little understanding for the customers...
sure i understand they need to get off, just like monkeys in the woods, need to get off.
frankly , if mankind has evolved from the monkey state... i guess some haven't.

nothing wrong with monkey sex in a relationship :D don't get me wrong on that... but the inability to show restraint, to the point you'll pay somebody for the burden of helping you with primal urges ... that's beyond me.

The chick maybe cool and she may know how to rock worlds and she may very well be able to tune into a guys thoughts but what she is doing is illegal when it involves a trade of sex for money. That just makes it wrong. Anything illegal is wrong and that is that. You can't pick what laws you wish to follow and ignore the others. That law might be ***** but it is still the law.

All that idealistic crap said, I would like to meet this chick! (for pure research purposes only - honest)

and a nice bj?

You can bet she swallows!

Swallow costs extra.

BUZZZZ

"When you have to pay for a deposit"

Alex, I'll take Call Girl Ecomonics for $1000 Please

Someone pass the Listerine to the muse.

It's nice to meet a chick that's good stuff. One of those who's head is like an opening into heaven. One of those that smell better the moister they become. One of those where you just want to stick your face in the middle of her hair and sniff big time. One of those that you just want to lick and eat as soon as possible. Desire is a turn on.. sport foking is another story.


all above is a prejudicial rant.

She swallows all right. I saw it. We had a number of meals together.

"Muse," like so many other labels and boxes we use to simplify our thinking, is not a complete description but it's clearly the best one. This woman goes from task to task. And by "task" what I mean is that she encounters people who are in need of inspiration and she provides that. In the form of conversation. She raises questions and provides considerations that shake things up, sometimes mightily, for the person she has encountered. It happens all the time. I saw it. Not just myself, but rather she usually has several inspirations going on simultaneously. Some involve sexual stuff, but many do not. Sometimes she whores and it's just that....whoring....exchanging sexual services for money and other considerations. The whole Dom/Sub thing is a specialty service she is apparently good at. And BTW, she calls herself a "Whore." No bones about that. But again, the really interesting part to me is this butterfly thing where she sees people who are needing to be kicked out of their circular thinking patterns and open up to a new paradigm. Taht's it. She is a paradigm-changer. When she is done with a student, things seem very different. This is her core activity. The whoring helps her support her muse mission.

As you might imagine, we had some amazing conversations. I wish they had been taped. Some was stream-of-consciousness stuff that sounded more like poetry than conversation, and most of it flew over my head. And yes, we talked about sex. That was, of course, also interesting.

And yeah Mike, it is illegal. And common.

getting paid for sex.

isnt a porn actor ( i use the term "actor" very loosely) getting paid for sex? how do they avoid, jail time?

some court case.... freedom of expression ...
i think it went to the supreme court or something...